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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 14:48:11 GMT
The thing about Mourinho is that he's great if he's no.1, but if he's no.2, no.3 or no.4 he can't handle it. He's not cut out for it psychologically. He starts the blame game, starts seeing conspiracies everywhere and quickly alienates everyone. I think he was permanently damaged from his time in Spain with Real, he came back from there like a bloke coming back from The First World War.
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Post by tory on Nov 20, 2019 15:16:57 GMT
The thing is, Spurs had a progressive young coach playing attacking football and whilst he achieved a great deal, he couldn't transform that to winning things.
Pochettino was probably the most qualified coach to take over at Spurs!
We don't know really what went on in the dressing room, but I suspect he got fed up.
Whether Mourinho can achieve things with Spurs is open to question, but I would say that there is life in him, he is a serial winner and the players will respect him. He may give them a hardened edge that they didn't have, the edge that might have seen them win a CL final that they should have.
Dismissing him because of his United experience is understandable and there is something in the notion that coaches only really achieve for about 10 years before they wilt, but he did very well I think to make a mediocre United team get to 2nd. He did make some bad choices in the transfer market but did also start bringing through youth like McTominay etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 16:03:05 GMT
The thing is, Spurs had a progressive young coach playing attacking football and whilst he achieved a great deal, he couldn't transform that to winning things. No, but he came bloody close!
People kept levelling that kind of criticism ( bottles the big trophies!) at Klopp until he shut them up by winning The Champions League and it no longer becomes a thing. Winning the big trophies is a little overrated by football fans anyway in my view. The reality is that there is only a very small number of clubs that have the power (including the history) and resources to win the major trophies ( although you might get the very occasional outlier like Leicester) and as the wealthy clubs get wealthier it is harder for those outside that elite to compete at the top end.
Poch's Spurs remind me a lot of the post-Invincibles Arsenal side of Fabregas, RVP, Rosicky, Nasri etc. That side played some great football, were competing for League titles, doing well in Europe etc. But they couldn't make that final jump into being a side that won trophies, largely because they didn't have the squad resources to rotate or freshen up the side. After a couple of seasons they hit a brick wall, the star players began to dream of playing elsewhere, at bigger or more glamorous clubs for more money, and the team began to fall apart. Spurs are hitting that wall now and for much the same reasons. After last season's Champions League defeat they realised that that was as good as it would ever get for them. I don't think Poch could have done much more than he did with that squad over the last three or four seasons.
Levy should have backed Poch to rebuild the side, but there's been little investment in players over the last couple of years. I think the stadium has quite a lot to do with that. But also the relationship between Levy and Poch seems to have broken down somewhat. I suspect Levy, like some jealous lover, has got pissed off with Poch flirting (as he sees it) with other clubs, just like when he got pissed off with Redknapp dallying around with the England job.
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Post by DarknessFish on Nov 29, 2019 10:45:44 GMT
Out of the blue, this one! Emery sacked! What's he done wrong? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50532493I watched the last 10 minutes of the game last night, and I didn't hear any complaints from the fans. Or hear any fans at all, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 12:53:51 GMT
Out of the blue, this one! Emery sacked! What's he done wrong? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50532493I watched the last 10 minutes of the game last night, and I didn't hear any complaints from the fans. Or hear any fans at all, actually. Worst Arsenal manager of my lifetime. Should have happened last month, it's just been painful and embarrassing watching him these last few weeks.
C'mon Freddie!
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Post by tory on Dec 8, 2019 22:29:32 GMT
Difficult to see City coming back from this position. Leicester look like Liverpool's closest challengers now.
Reckon West Ham could have Benitez as their new manager by Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 22:38:07 GMT
He's doing the analysis for Sky for the West Ham Arsenal game apparently. Interesting timing...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2019 22:11:16 GMT
West Ham are going down with this manager.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 9, 2019 22:12:58 GMT
Skope v DD battle at the bottom
Nice to see Citeh struggle and Leicester do well
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 22:45:40 GMT
I think it's a good fit for both teams, in all honesty. The pressure is less on Mourinho than at a team like Utd where winning things is demanded, rather than hoped for. And Tottenham seem like a team he can build to defend with strength and counter attack with pace and sharp finishing. I think it's a bad fit...and as an Arsenal fan I'm more than happy to see this ( even more so because it now means he won't come to us). With the exception of Porto early on, when has Mourinho ever rebuilt anything? He made a mess of rebuilding Utd and he was given 300 million to do that. Spurs, even more so than Utd, are in need of a major rebuild and he'll have pretty restricted funds to do it, probably a quarter of what he had at Utd.
This is a far more likely scenario: First season - new manager bounce, gets a bit of a winning run, finishes 5th or 6th, maybe wins FA Cup. Spurs fans optimistic about what he can do with a full season. Second season - Competing in and around the top four, second half of season we get the first grumblings about the ugliness of the football, one of their better players, my money is on Ali, will be inexplicably frozen out, end up finishing fifth or sixth. Third season - Mourinho moans in the close season about the clubs' lack of ambition. Slow start, they struggle for goals. Grumblings become a load chorus and the fans turn totally against him.
Sacked by Christmas. Spurs should have appointed a young, progressive coach who had the ideas and drive for the long haul..a Ten Hag, Rose, Nagelsmann type.
And so it begins....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2019 10:57:39 GMT
Adama Traoré has to be the most exciting player in the EPL this season. Defences just cannot handle him. How I wish we'd bought him instead of Pepe.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 20, 2020 17:34:59 GMT
Liverpool then.....
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 20, 2020 17:35:26 GMT
Van Dijk was tremendous yesterday. Some of those passes!
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Post by tory on Jan 20, 2020 19:56:22 GMT
Best defender in the Premier League ever without doubt. He makes it look effortless - not the ruggedness of a Stam or Vidic, just elegant and never flustered.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 9:49:53 GMT
Looking like Norwich, Bournemouth and West Ham to go down.
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