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Post by oh oooh on Oct 18, 2020 11:49:37 GMT
It's appropriate to the thread, it's a new (to youtube) clip, it's a reminder of how great Elvis and his BAND were. It's live! listen to them play!
I don't always like to say why I'm posting something. Sometimes there isn't a specific reason.
It does piss me off when people just put album covers or film posters up in those endless 'NOW PLAYING'-type threads THO
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 18, 2020 12:39:33 GMT
I would have included the Everly Bros. I don't think of them as rock n' roll. Maybe I'm wrong in that, I don't know. You included Holly and I think they fit in with him.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 18, 2020 12:41:40 GMT
SF Chronicle pop music writer emeritus, Joel Selvin, wrote a book on Ricky Nelson and considers him one of the pantheon.
I do not agree.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 18, 2020 12:43:04 GMT
SF Chronicle pop music writer emeritus, Joel Selvin, wrote a book on Ricky Nelson and considers him one of the pantheon. I do not agree. Wasn't he a bit like Johnny Burnette in that he had a brief but fiery rock and roll stage in his career?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 12:54:35 GMT
I watched him in Rio Bravo again the other day. He seems too clean cut to be a real rock n' roller.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 18, 2020 13:31:24 GMT
I watched him in Rio Bravo again the other day. He seems too clean cut to be a real rock n' roller. Great movie. I love that period of Wayne movies with Dean Martin. James Caan is one of them in the Nelson sidekick role.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 18, 2020 13:32:58 GMT
was nelson big in the BAY AREA?
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 18, 2020 13:42:15 GMT
was nelson big in the BAY AREA? On the level of you? Nope.
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Post by rayge on Oct 18, 2020 13:42:23 GMT
SF Chronicle pop music writer emeritus, Joel Selvin, wrote a book on Ricky Nelson and considers him one of the pantheon. I do not agree. Wasn't he a bit like Johnny Burnette in that he had a brief but fiery rock and roll stage in his career? No, not really. He may have made the odd rock & roll single that died on the vine, but then again so did Roy Orbison (Ooby Dooby and a few others), Paul Anka (Diana) and Neil Sedaka (I Go Ape). Nelson was talked of as a rock & roller at the time, but, as with soul, the label was applied to all sorts of acts that were around at the time and vaguely in the teen market, even no-mark balladeers such as Bobby Rydell or Fabian, as well as being applied to established acts in other genres that had emerged in the years BE, such as R&B, Western Swing, jazz blues and doo wop.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 18, 2020 15:09:50 GMT
SF Chronicle pop music writer emeritus, Joel Selvin, wrote a book on Ricky Nelson and considers him one of the pantheon. I do not agree. Wasn't he a bit like Johnny Burnette in that he had a brief but fiery rock and roll stage in his career? NO, nothing fiery, soft shoe shuffles, with a crack band, hung out with all the bad boys of the time (Gene, Eddie, etc.,)in a way a precursor to the Beach Boys, Monkees, etc., the machinery was just getting started to make some money on this rock and roll thing. May have been the first to be a star of parents who were stars (radio, big band, tv), a thoroughly modern thing.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Oct 19, 2020 16:55:00 GMT
I think it is easy for us to draw lines now. But it was all probably a lot less clear when it was happening.
I was just looking up Jerry Lee Lewis on Wikipedia, and his entry mentions him getting kicked out of bible college for playing a “boogie-woogie rendition” of a hymn in an assembly. But I’ll bet that if we heard a recording of the same performance now, we would probably judge it as too tame to be rock n’ roll.
If you look at the hit parade from 1953, what you see are names like Patti Page, Percy Faith, Eddie Fisher, The Ames Brothers, Frankie Laine, and Perry Como. So that’s the context of the times. Maybe Bill Haley seems a bit light to you now, but he probably cut through all of that like a knife.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 19, 2020 17:01:04 GMT
Guaranteed you'll discover someone you never heard of: For sixty years, conventional wisdom has told us that women generally did not perform rock and roll during the 1950s.
Women’s participation in rock and roll may not yet fully be a part of the way we talk about the history of the genre, and there remain many performers about whom we know very little today. There are many stories yet to be told. Yet women performers from this generation aren’t entirely “lost,” either. Scholars, fans, and the performers have written articles and books that include information about women in rock and related genres. Browse or search the Bibliography to find some of the sources that informed this project. www.womeninrockproject.org
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Apr 18, 2024 12:33:34 GMT
I still want to know how Buddy Holly influenced psychedelia!
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Post by davey on Apr 18, 2024 19:56:14 GMT
I still want to know how Buddy Holly influenced psychedelia! I’m glad to see that I didn’t say it so that I don’t HAVE TO defend it. But I’ll still defend it… If you define psych not as druggy/trippy, but rather as the strain of record-making in which soundscapes were created in order to allow your mind to take a kind of a trip…he definitely had demonstrable influence.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Apr 19, 2024 6:21:32 GMT
I still want to know how Buddy Holly influenced psychedelia! I’m glad to see that I didn’t say it so that I don’t HAVE TO defend it. But I’ll still defend it… If you define psych not as druggy/trippy, but rather as the strain of record-making in which soundscapes were created in order to allow your mind to take a kind of a trip…he definitely had demonstrable influence. Do you have an example?
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