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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 29, 2019 14:13:49 GMT
...according to 358 filmmakers:
1. Tokyo Story - Yasujiro Ozu (1953)
= 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick (1968)
= 2. Citizen Kane – Orson Welles (1941)
4. 8 ½ - Federico Fellini (1963)
5. Taxi Driver – Martin Scorsese (1976)
6. Apocalypse Now – Francis Ford Coppola (1979)
= 7. The Godfather – Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
= 7. Vertigo – Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
9. Mirror – Andrei Tarkovsky (1974)
10. Bicycle Thieves – Vittorio De Sica (1949)
which have you seen? which would you recommend? which would you like to see? which have you no interest in?
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2019 14:20:12 GMT
I've seen 'em all.
Tokyo Story is wonderful but I prefer Late Spring. With Ozu the quality is so high for a period and the films themselves similar enough thematically that it's easy to pick a different one.
Citizen Kane. Just entertaining as all hell.
8 1/2. It's a directors thing, innit? Struggling with the muse n all that. I saw it again on the big screen a year or two ago and it was better than I remembered but not a movie to love.
Taxi Driver. I'm delighted to see this here. Maybe the cinema's greatest portrayal of loneliness.
Apocalypse Now. One of the great movie trips but a bit high imo.
Godfather. I prefer the sequel
Vertigo. Silly in some ways but also magical and dark beyond words. Really captures something quite horrifying about relationships.
Mirror. Meh. Yeah some beautiful visuals but too ellipitical. Maybe one day it will click.
Bicyle Thieves. Oh fuck yeah. That endin! Mamma mia! (or something)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 14:20:42 GMT
I've seen them all apart from number one...
Mirror is gorgeous but I probably wouldn't recommend it as a first Tarko. I'd have put Stalker a bit ahead of it. In fact it's possible that the director's cut of Apocalypse Now is my favourite of any of those.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 14:41:59 GMT
I've seen 7 and a half (but not, oddly, 8 1/2  . Half because I started watching Tokyo Story but got bored with it. I don't remember much about it now, old Japanese people talking to each other in kitchens is my memory! Haven't seen 8 1/2 but I'd like to. I'm not very interested in Tarkovsky, I'm not sure why..maybe I'm projecting something overly intellectual and arid onto it. Critical tide has turned against Apocalypse, I think it's seen as a bit vulgar and pretentious in a bombastic way, not one for the film sophisticates, but I still think its great. Vertigo is my favourite film of all time, completely beguiling and mesmerising. |
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 29, 2019 14:47:48 GMT
2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick (1968)
Citizen Kane – Orson Welles (1941)
Taxi Driver – Martin Scorsese (1976)
Apocalypse Now – Francis Ford Coppola (1979)
The Godfather – Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
Vertigo – Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
Are the films I've seen, and I love all of 'em. The first Godfather is better than the second, too, it's properly sumptuous, and doesn't have all that tedious political stuff about Cuba.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 14:58:22 GMT
2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick (1968) Citizen Kane – Orson Welles (1941) Taxi Driver – Martin Scorsese (1976) Apocalypse Now – Francis Ford Coppola (1979) The Godfather – Francis Ford Coppola (1972) Vertigo – Alfred Hitchcock (1958) Are the films I've seen, and I love all of 'em. The first Godfather is better than the second, too, it's properly sumptuous, and doesn't have all that tedious political stuff about Cuba. Whilst I like all the Cuba stuff, I've always preferred The Godfather to the sequel. Godfather 2 is more ambitious, it may be the more intelligent film, but it doesn't offer the same immersive pleasure for me. The Godfather is so perfectly formed with a classic narrative trajectory. I can almost recall it frame by frame, whereas G2 has never stuck with me as much (although I've seen it loads of times). |
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2019 15:00:11 GMT
The Godfather is just a bunch of people talking in kitchens
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 15:02:36 GMT
The Godfather is just a bunch of people talking in kitchens With guns! It makes all the difference.  |
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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 29, 2019 15:10:34 GMT
Seen thrm all EXCEPT the number one. I should do!
Like some, love some. Was unconvinced by Taxi Driver and unengaged by Bicycle Thieves. Kane has lost a lot of power as its innovations and ideas have spread. Will give them another go.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 15:20:53 GMT
Trump discussing Citizen Kane is an odd watch now.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2019 17:22:50 GMT
You watch old(er) clips of him and he seems perfectly normal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 18:13:10 GMT
Have seen all of them...like them all to varying degrees...Only CK and Godfather might find their way into my Top Ten...
Been many years since I have seen Tokyo Story, 8 1/2, Mirror and they probably deserve a re-watch...
2001: A Space Odyssey – Stanley Kubrick: An innovative visual feast...
Taxi Driver – Martin Scorsese: ..Great, but not my favorite Marty...An acting Tour de force..Amazing that DeNiro was filming this and Bertolucci's '1900'at the same time, flying back and forth between Rome and NYC...
Apocalypse Now – Francis Ford Coppola: Have always loved this film...Wish there was an extended cut which kept some of the much needed addition footage, but excluded the French plantation segment (It simply bogs down the momentum of the film)
Vertigo – Alfred Hitchcock: While not my favorite Hitch, the use of location shoots (a rarity for Hitchcock)in the San Francisco Bay area and the introduction of the Dolly Zoom , make this a special film
Bicycle Thieves – Vittorio De Sica: A masterpiece of neorealism cinema.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 29, 2019 18:24:51 GMT
I've seen six: 2001, Kane, Taxi Driver, Apocalypse Now, Godfather and Vertigo.
Apocalypse Now is definitely the one I enjoyed the most. 2001 knocked me out too. I enjoyed Taxi Driver much more when I was 20 than I did the last time I saw it (a couple of years ago). Kane has amazing moments but some cluttered, noisy scenes, much banging about. But I love to read about it.
I found the Godfather ponderous and incomprehensible in places. Vertigo irritated me.
I've got three of the other four lined up (not arsed about the Tarkovsky) - particularly want to see The Bicycle Thieves, which was one of my dad's favourites.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 29, 2019 18:42:05 GMT
Bicycle Thieves will break your heart. One of those movies where once every couple of months the final scene will play in your head and you'll sigh heavily and think "what a cruel world it can be"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2019 18:51:32 GMT
I taught The Bicycle Thieves for many years..I never got bored of the film which says something.
I think you'll really enjoy it John, it's got quite a lot of humour in there too, it's not just this misery fest.
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. Half because I started watching Tokyo Story but got bored with it. I don't remember much about it now, old Japanese people talking to each other in kitchens is my memory! Haven't seen 8 1/2 but I'd like to. I'm not very interested in Tarkovsky, I'm not sure why..maybe I'm projecting something overly intellectual and arid onto it.
