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Post by DarknessFish on Jul 16, 2020 21:03:28 GMT
You were retweeted by Cory Doctorow, that makes you some kind of twitter celebrity. Really? I’ve followed him for some time, but I honestly don’t know who he is. I mean, I gather he’s an author, but I’d never heard of him prior to following him on Twitter. I bought one of his books from a charity shop before I'd heard of the bloke, just because it just sounded too strange to work. It was half techno-geek thing about public access wi-fi, and half nonsense fantasy where the main bloke has a girlfriend with wings, his mum is a washing machine, his brothers are russian dolls, and his dad is a mountain. Was alright, as it happens.
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 16, 2020 22:21:34 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, he is the main force behind BoingBoing.net! I like his "juvenile" books better than his other stuff - I finish them anyway so I guess I like them better. pretty dumb Spielbergy approach but brisk and punchy style. I think the "smart kid hackers save the world" shit goes down pretty easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 22:59:14 GMT
Why would you follow someone who you don't know or know anything about? Genuine question, I'm not trying to be snarky. It's the curatorial thing. You read their Twitter bio; you check out the profile and see what they say and retweet; you notice a bunch of people you follow follow that person as well; they're popular. It's a mixture of all these things which make you decide to click follow. It takes a millisecond and you can unfollow if their posts become annoying. You only see their posts occasionally as well so it's not as if they've taken on best mate proportions in your life. At least that's how it works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 7:26:29 GMT
Why would you follow someone who you don't know or know anything about? Genuine question, I'm not trying to be snarky. It's the curatorial thing. You read their Twitter bio; you check out the profile and see what they say and retweet; you notice a bunch of people you follow follow that person as well; they're popular. It's a mixture of all these things which make you decide to click follow. It takes a millisecond and you can unfollow if their posts become annoying. You only see their posts occasionally as well so it's not as if they've taken on best mate proportions in your life. At least that's how it works for me. So it's like being at school and wanting to be friends with the cool kid?
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Jul 17, 2020 9:06:01 GMT
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Post by tory on Jul 17, 2020 9:06:01 GMT
Yeah there is certainly something in that in a psychological sense.
One of Twitter's great issues to me is that individuals have built up a huge following and when they start making pronouncements about something that they have no knowledge of, they gain traction for it. For example, Gary Lineker has 5 million followers and makes hay about Brexit etc. His voice goes far, but does he have any authority or weight on the matter? I suspect not much more than you or I in a down-the-pub-chatting sense.
At the same time, Marcus Rashford used Twitter to get the government to do a u-turn on free school meals. It is a complex beast.
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Jul 17, 2020 9:11:30 GMT
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Post by tory on Jul 17, 2020 9:11:30 GMT
Geraint, you should be on Instagram.
It is much more visual and you can use hashtags much more to build up a follower base. For your business, which is very visual,I'd say it's almost essential. Take lots of pictures of your stock and just upload regularly as a sort of diary process. Even taking pictures of you out and about scouring for stock produces a narrative that many buyers might want to identify with. You can build a relationship with your audience that is much more than just being a shop- Instagram allows you the opportunity to talk to your audience- and you can expand on the sort of things you like aesthetically for example. Just get into the habit of taking pictures all the time.
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Post by tory on Jul 17, 2020 9:15:26 GMT
This is my wife's insta instagram.com/diningroompr?igshid=1whjfwlfciy9pShe uses it as a diary more than anything else of what we eat. But it is very useful as a hook into her business, which is food and restaurant PR. It's not solely about her business, and by seeing that people get to see what she likes to eat and cook. Instagram is a very useful bridge between the personal and business.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jul 17, 2020 10:23:23 GMT
It’s the worst. Honestly, it’s a cesspool of entitlement, ignorance, hatred and bullshit. Like a social media petri dish experiment gone terribly awry.
I noticed that Bari Weiss in her scathing resignation letter from the NYT made the point that Twitter had become the papers “ultimate editor”. I really think it’s warping reality.
It’s funny when you look back at how optimistic some folks were about the internet and its influence on society. I’m sure some still see Twitter as some kind of great egalitarian platform where everybody has a voice and therefore can influence the world.
The road to hell n all that....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:14:05 GMT
It's the curatorial thing. You read their Twitter bio; you check out the profile and see what they say and retweet; you notice a bunch of people you follow follow that person as well; they're popular. It's a mixture of all these things which make you decide to click follow. It takes a millisecond and you can unfollow if their posts become annoying. You only see their posts occasionally as well so it's not as if they've taken on best mate proportions in your life. At least that's how it works for me. So it's like being at school and wanting to be friends with the cool kid? It's not about being friends. It's not social in that way. It's not like, I don't know, Facebook or bulletin boards. If you are following 500+ people, obviously they aren't friends. You don't read everything that's posted for starters. Some people interact, some don't. It is used in different ways. Anyhow I'm not trying to be a salesperson and I don't really understand how you read that into what I said.
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Jul 17, 2020 12:22:35 GMT
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Post by tory on Jul 17, 2020 12:22:35 GMT
There's something very human about twitter - it is terrible but can also be amazing. Of all the platforms it's the least manipulative for want of a better phrase as there is no relevancy algorithm.
I've got lots of columns set up for my tweetdeck with various hashtags for all the various things I follow and spend about 1 hour a day going through them. Whether it be Classics, Football, boardgames, history teaching, paleontology politics etc - the depth and range of things out there is remarkable. And yet, it can be a dreadful cesspit too. The range of abuse that J K Rowling suffered recently made my mind up for me that much of humanity is downright appalling.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jul 17, 2020 12:29:47 GMT
There's something very human about twitter - it is terrible but can also be amazing. Of all the platforms it's the least manipulative for want of a better phrase as there is no relevancy algorithm. Reddit makes Twitter look polite and restrained.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 12:46:09 GMT
I get why people are negative about it, but sometimes these views sounds a bit moany and victimy. If you express some opinion and everyone piles on it can be horrible and like the devils playground. But if you use it like most people probably do and just cruise around and follow your interests it's basically benign. It can be interesting, educating, irritating too. Interestingly only about 20% of internet users use it, so that's another reason not to get overly worked up about it.
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Post by The Red Heifer on Jul 17, 2020 13:01:16 GMT
I noticed that Bari Weiss in her scathing resignation letter from the NYT made the point that Twitter had become the papers “ultimate editor”. I really think it’s warping reality. I think this piece nailed a fair bit about the shit she's whinging about: amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/15/bari-weiss-new-york-times-resignation-cancel-culture?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=trueThis bit was good: Australia has one of these types, his name is Joe Hildebrand. He has tried to position himself as some sort of sensible centrist, spouts conservative talking points as if he's the most tolerant lefty on the face of the earth and squeals like a stuck pig when anyone dares criticise him. Its bullshit, refusing to die by the sword you lived by.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 15:58:10 GMT
I was new to Instagram last year and it's the only social media profile I still actually enjoy. When I was a kid a hobby of my was collecting images I found interesting in scrapbooks and I'm kind of seeing that as the grown-up equivalent. I've opened up chats with new people on there as well, which hadn't happened on another platform for a long while. It used to happen on Twitter but everyone just seems to have dug their own trench on there now.
Twitter doesn't seem to do well for a small business unless its roughly media or personal branding based. Most twitter accounts for small businesses I've found have a few promotional tweets from a couple of years ago and nothing else. Facebook pages and Instagram seems to suit them better.
I think a lot of peoples attitudes towards the social nature of the internet have come full circle over the last 15 years. Many who used to love the potentialities it had now distrust it, many who used to distrust it now spend half of their lives following goofy baby videos on FB.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jul 17, 2020 16:27:35 GMT
Yeah, I still get a nice cosy glow from Instagram. Too many ads, but nothing too disruptive. It's the most enjoyable social media going.
I use Twitter mainly to find out things like '25 years to the day since Elastica bassist quit!'
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