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Post by Crunchy Col on Jan 13, 2019 20:23:27 GMT
...to really enjoy food?
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Post by jeffk on Jan 13, 2019 20:26:15 GMT
They look like they barely enjoy life, let alone food.
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Post by rayge on Jan 13, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
Of course it is. Enjoyment lies in the person enjoying, not the thing being enjoyed. The faculty can be applied to anything, even something most people would find agonizing. How else to account for the popularity of King Crimson records?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 0:10:07 GMT
Skope won't like this...and things were going so well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 0:13:55 GMT
How can you tell when someone's a vegan?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 1:07:32 GMT
I thought you were going to write, "To not be assholes."
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Post by toomanyhatz on Jan 14, 2019 4:28:09 GMT
Oh dear.
I'm going with Rayge's answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 9:44:50 GMT
Oh dear.
I was just joking. I've been a vegetarian since I was eleven, and I tried being a vegan but it was decades ago and too difficult then especially when travelling. And I love milk. And I'm glad skope is posting.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jan 14, 2019 9:48:10 GMT
I wasn't trying to stir up trouble! I should clarify: I was shopping in Tesco yesterday with Gonzo (who's a vegan) and he was telling me, among other things, that he can't eat honey (as it's an animal product).
It got me thinking - what's the rationale behind veganism, if natural healthy products like that aren't allowed? And can vegans give me examples of food they enjoy as treats?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 10:12:32 GMT
i’ll bite, since i know this is a wind-up aimed at me. talking of wind-ups, i’m sure all but the most dense of posters realise that my self-righteous, indignant, angry vegan persona was just a creation to aggravate the twerps on BCB. and by christ did that work… too well if truth be told. there were actually posters who said that they would never become vegan because i was one! that gives you an idea of the kind of pricks i was kicking against. and then i had violent psychopath never/ever posting photos of dead animals! what a life these people lead.
now that i’m among friends, let me say that although i’d love the world to turn vegan, the truth is that as a borderline misanthropist i really couldn’t care less what people eat. i certainly don’t have the time or inclination to be evangelical about it. i actually recoil when people ask me about it, my work christmas meal being a case in point.
i became vegan for ethical reasons. i don’t believe in the slaughter or exploitation of animals. i was in denial and believed all the bullshit that the media, government, so-called health experts and the meat industry fed me until i met someone who put me on the right-track.
the health benefits have been unexpected and an absolute boon! i was bordering on being overweight and went from a 34 waist to a 30 and down to 68 kilos. i run 50 miles a week. at 53, i’m in the best shape of my life both physically and mentally. i love clothes and fashion and spend most of my money on them and look fucking great! i’m convinced that feeling good about yourself is the key to leading a happy life. that doesn’t mean i don’t have bad habits. i drink too much and indulge in the odd line, but my diet and exercise regime off-sets some of the damage i do to myself. when i read about some of the health problems BCB’ers post about, it doesn’t surprise me. i seem to remember a few saying they had gout. wtf! i thought that was something people got centuries ago!
another unexpected boon of being a vegan has been an interest in cooking. despite the stick i took from the board’s GGC, i love cooking and think i’m pretty good at it. obviously not GGC standard, but i actually prefer my own food to what i get served in restaurants. so in answer to your question JC, yes i do enjoy food.
sermon over my preludian friends.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 10:18:07 GMT
with regards to treats. i had some delicious vegan turron from mercadona over christmas.
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Post by dipstick on Jan 14, 2019 14:07:45 GMT
At my last job, I worked with a guy who was vegan. He confided that he made the switch after he got married, and the strain of the change was a factor in his separation and divorce. He said there were so few places to get vegan food and he was preparing bland meals that lasted a week, so the lack of variety led to stress.
He has since varied his cooking, and the rise of better vegan food choices both from the grocery stores and restaurants have been nothing but good news.
Whenever we had a work getogether with food, I'd try and make a vegan offering so he could partake. It took careful thinking on my part to ensure no animal products went into those dishes. His favorite were some Indian-style vegan egg burritos; I ended up giving him a whole other batch that I had planned to eat!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 14:11:17 GMT
At my last job, I worked with a guy who was vegan. He confided that he made the switch after he got married, and the strain of the change was a factor in his separation and divorce. He said there were so few places to get vegan food and he was preparing bland meals that lasted a week, so the lack of variety led to stress. He has since varied his cooking, and the rise of better vegan food choices both from the grocery stores and restaurants have been nothing but good news. Whenever we had a work getogether with food, I'd try and make a vegan offering so he could partake. It took careful thinking on my part to ensure no animal products went into those dishes. His favorite were some Indian-style vegan egg burritos; I ended up giving him a whole other batch that I had planned to eat! great story! laughed when reading it
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Post by tory on Jan 14, 2019 14:28:01 GMT
There is a sea change going on, which I think in the bigger scheme of things is great.
I’m not Vegan and I will never be, as I love meat, dairy and seafood too much. There’s a richness in the culture of those things that I don’t want to disappear. My feeling is that those things should be expensive and not cheap. It is our desire to have lovely things on the cheap that has created the industrialisation of food production and with that, the considerable harm of animals.
We should be aiming for good quality meat and dairy produced in an ethical manner. That is entirely possible, but it means a cultural shift in not buying a six pack of chicken thighs from the supermarket for £1.50, or cheap takeaway meat. This really is the battleground and i can understand why some have become antagonistic about it. For every person declaiming that we shouldn’t eat meat, you have attacks on cultures that have meat as a central part of their diet and way of life. What’s going to happen to the Sunday Roast?
Then there’s the other side of the coin. Avocados and Quinoa, and countless other “substitutes”, a lot of the time sourced unethically or doing damage to the place where they are harvested. The demand for substitutes can often cause just as much “damage” as buying meat or dairy. Our desire to eat healthily leads us to exotic cuisines and foodstuffs that the import of can be just as problematic.
I say buy locally and seasonally. Don’t buy food from across the other side of the world unless you absolutely have to. Buy stuff from your own country mostly. Yes, sometimes you’ll need lemons and lime, but if you live in Europe, then the impact of that is not going to be anywhere near that of buying stuff from Chile or South Africa.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 14:35:39 GMT
you are a piece of work, toby.i will say no more for the equilibrium of the board .
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