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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 14:24:04 GMT
Thought I'd quickly put up 3 or 4 ties, but the majority will be posted this evening.
You have until TUESDAY JULY 16th to vote, so that's 9 days. I'll probably close the ties early evening. Good luck to all the finalist!
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Madonna - Candy Perfume Girl
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Keith Christmas - Forest and the Shore
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Post by toomanyhatz on Jul 7, 2019 19:28:33 GMT
Now that the vids are showing up, I will re-post my original response to this match, minus the part about the vids not showing up.  Ray of Light is probably my favorite Madonna album by miles, which is fairly faint praise as I'm no fan. But I do enjoy the production on A. And it's not a bad song at all, just something that ultimately doesn't move me. It's her most eccentric product, but it's still product. KC is an artist I've always thought had some interesting songs but really didn't escape the twee aspects of the time, and was probably as overproduced for his era as Madonna was for hers, though with more modest aims. That's far from his best song, though. I mean, kudos for not picking "Fable of the Wings," but "Fable of the Wings" is far better than this. B, I guess, though ultimately I'm voting for the artist. Not an auspicious start. |
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Post by rankingted on Jul 7, 2019 21:41:38 GMT
Two decent songs elevated by the production on one and the arrangement on the other. I think there were better tracks on ROL but the Orbit bleeps and warmth makes A a pleasant reminder of when Madge wasn’t trying too hard. B is a wintry, spectral thing with that Nick Drake fairy dust courtesy of Robert Kirby. The atmosphere of the thing is heady and allows you to overlook some of the more wayward parts of the performance. The coda is wonderful also. Nice opener.
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Post by lokie on Jul 8, 2019 1:14:39 GMT
If I've ever heard KC before, I don't recall. Nice arrangement but I find the song overall kinda weak.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 2:36:58 GMT
I'll throw a bone to Madonna..It has better production...Vote A
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Post by DarknessFish on Jul 8, 2019 8:41:25 GMT
Really generic kinda trip-hop beat on the Madge track, you think she could afford someone to think up new ideas. Seems to be a random phrase in search of a tune, feels something more like Garbage would've done than a Madonna song. Three Inch Nails.
Keith Christmas is a great name for a pub singer, I expected some hard-bitten geordie bloke willing to take on all hecklers. This is more Barclay James Harvest territory, the arrangement desperately trying to make up for the overall dampness of the song. Might have possibly been acceptable without the choir, the strings, and the organ.
Pfft. I'd like to be contrary, and throw Madonna a vote here because it's a much less BCB choice, but it's also a bit rank. Whereas B probably has been less designed by committee, but is still using an orchestra to make mulch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 16:53:41 GMT
Very strong opener.
This is the only period of Madonna I really care for and that's because of William Orbit's shimmering production. This is a good track with a clear Massive Attack influence. The song is suitably moody though lapses close to dirge-like at times.
I went through a KC phase a few years ago. He's maybe the most West Coast sounding of the English singer-songwriters. This is a really immersive, expansive track and I love the way it ebbs and flows. Disagree with Hatz, this is a strong selection from his catalogue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 17:29:30 GMT
B
I like this era of Madonna too, but B was just better.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jul 8, 2019 22:42:58 GMT
Both songs are essentially grooves, but the Madonna thing strikes me as more fraudulent, typical of a certain kind of 90s hip emptiness, nothing whatsoever at its core.
B is OK, I suppose. It held my attention for more than 20 seconds, at least.
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Post by fange on Jul 9, 2019 7:32:21 GMT
A good match this. My views seem to be outside the general critical consensus in that I think Madonna peaked in her first 2 LPs, and everything since has been a long slow descent, broken only by a few moments of greatness/goodness, but this record was one of those momentary bleeps on the radar. This one has got great feel and still catches my attention nicely. The Christmas record is one I know less well, and after giving it a few listens I've enjoyed it - lovely arrangements especially - but it kind of just floats away on the ether. His voice is one of the weaker element sadly, and doesn't add to the power of the song's sound.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jul 9, 2019 7:35:40 GMT
I didn't mind B but thought it was a nice production in search of a better tune.
A is not MY Madonna I'm afraid so without much enthusiasm.
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Post by osgood on Jul 9, 2019 8:26:49 GMT
Nice opening tie. It's a good Madge tune, but I got hooked by B atmosphere, I'm a sucker for this kind of things.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jul 10, 2019 14:32:17 GMT
Some people will listen to any old shit, eh? "Oh, this is a real high-point of Madonna's career!". No it's not. It's garbage.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Jul 11, 2019 12:08:41 GMT
despite some nice moments, christmas overstays his welcome but by God anything is better than the AWFUL madonna.
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Post by rayge on Jul 13, 2019 14:46:56 GMT
Ray of light was my point of departure from Madge. When she was good, it was all about her and the songs. Getting in a name producer diluted all that.
I once owned a Keith Xmas album. Didn't play it any later than 75 or so, but don't think this was on it. It's wet, nbot so much so as the egregious Drake, but in that ballpark.
Neither track is of interest, really.
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