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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 14:19:11 GMT
It was plainly obvious that as soon as Corbyn was elected the media was going to go after him. Very few politicians are able to change the narrative to suit them and Corbyn was never going to be one who did. The media to a certain extent determine what is deemed to be acceptable and what is unacceptable, but at the same time they do also represent the people that buy their product. It is a two way dialogue that is not a situation where people unwittingly swallow what the newspaper etc says. They are also accountable in a way that say the BBC isnt because no-one is forced to buy their product. I do believe that investigative journalism I'd still very much a massive part of what makes good newspapers and it still very much exists in Britain. Journalists are not necessarily allied to their paper - for me, all papers have qualities and good journalists, just as they also have bad qualities and bad journalists. To treat the media as this monolithic block that is culpable for the woes of the country is missing the mark. We do actually have some of the best reportage and newspapers in the world and in general, I'd say that the journalistic rigour of the UK media is very good. Corbyn was a political outsider who chose to make friends with people very much viewed with suspicion by most people. That was his choice. Maybe he didn't ever expect to be PM, but anyone who decides that they want to be, must expect the same sort of exhaustive journalism. That is one of the hallmarks of our country - I definitely don't want a PM that no-one knows much about. What a load of waffle. Let's be clear what we're talking about here, a deliberate campaign of misrepresentation, distortion and lies. I've presented you and Dougie with factual examples of this, which you've both ignored. To reduce this to some bland statement of "oh well, all newspapers have good and bad journalists..." is just dissembling of the most transparant kind. Cheers G
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 18, 2019 14:20:14 GMT
Are we all just fools swallowing the media's lies and guff? Of course we're not. That's a gross exaggeration of what is self-evidently true - that Corbyn was vilified in the press from the first day he became leader. That's not to say I support him. I don't like him very much. But he'd be right to feel aggrieved over his treatment - more so than any major British politician in living memory. And I'm ducking out now, so save your 'really, John?' for another thread 😘 x
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 18, 2019 14:57:10 GMT
Are we all just fools swallowing the media's lies and guff? Of course we're not. That's a gross exaggeration of what is self-evidently true - that Corbyn was vilified in the press from the first day he became leader. That's not to say I support him. I don't like him very much. But he'd be right to feel aggrieved over his treatment - more so than any major British politician in living memory. And I'm ducking out now, so save your 'really, John?' for another thread 😘 x
Oooo! etc I'll save it for my Lana Del Rey thread! Incoming!
He was "vilified" because people found his words and actions a bit problematic for someone wishing to be PM. In the media and the real world. Was there some bullshit within that? Of course, it's the media, it's what they do (and there was plenty directed at Johnson too...his ratings are hardly high with the public) but if he wasn't such a repugnant oaf this wouldn't be the issue it was. Like I said, a lot of the coverage was just him being him. It's just that Corbyn and his worldview and associations etc are nauseating to the majority of the public. Any left wing politician will get shit but, by Christ, he gave them an open goal. Of course the floodgates opened...how could they not when there is so much evidence of Corbyn being a silly far left twat?
If anything sections where too soft on the cunt. Christ the Guardian eventually endorsed him lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 15:05:11 GMT
Not not "bullshit", lies is the word you are looking for. Why do you keep denying it?
What you are saying essentially is it is legitimate to publish lies and smears against someone if they're someone you don't like. That's a incredibly dangerous road you are advocating, far more dangerous than anything offered by Corbyn!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 18, 2019 15:09:39 GMT
*edited*
Ach
I'm having a shit day. Best leave this shite.
FOR NOW
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 19, 2019 11:34:14 GMT
Corbyn refusing to say one single word to Johnson during the State Opening. I wonder if this is down to anything specific? And I wonder if Boris has partaken this morning...
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 19, 2019 11:42:36 GMT
And yet he'll speak to Islamists. Such a child. Just say hi, shake the cunts hand and get on with it.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 19, 2019 16:27:36 GMT
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Post by DarknessFish on Dec 19, 2019 16:41:30 GMT
Corbyn refusing to say one single word to Johnson during the State Opening. I wonder if this is down to anything specific? And I wonder if Boris has partaken this morning... He refused to talk to Cameron at the same event years back, didn't he? Odd.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 19, 2019 16:54:22 GMT
It is odd. And it doesn't look good. I mean, what acceptable excuse could there be?
Unless BJ turned to him just before the door opened and called him a drivelling old shitbag. OH no! that was Dougie
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Post by DarknessFish on Dec 19, 2019 16:59:42 GMT
The Dougie/Corbyn thing is all over some weird love triangle a few years back. He caught Corbyn spooning Abu Hamza, and he's never forgiven him since.
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Post by fonz on Dec 19, 2019 18:52:37 GMT
The Dougie/Corbyn thing is all over some weird love triangle a few years back. He caught Corbyn spooning Abu Hamza, and he's never forgiven him since. I heard about that. Didn’t realise GB was involved. Some sort of hook-pegging incident. Corbyn refused to blame Hamza, even though he was obviously at fault.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 19, 2019 19:49:44 GMT
The Dougie/Corbyn thing is all over some weird love triangle a few years back. He caught Corbyn spooning Abu Hamza, and he's never forgiven him since. On the contrary, I joined in with GUSTO!! Worst hand job ever though it has to be said
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 19, 2019 19:50:54 GMT
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 20, 2019 12:21:33 GMT
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