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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 18:55:37 GMT
What makes it - the equipment? The production? The musicians? Alternatively, how skilled are a good set of regulars like the Wrecking Crew at adapting so easily into different sounds, like musical chameleons.
My first discussion is Motown - but I'm intending this topic to cover the sound of/at Stax, the Wall of Sound ...
I love the Funk Brothers - I assume everyone's seen 'Standing in the Shadows of Motown'?
This was in my youtube feed today, an attempt at recreating the sound. A bit techy, a bit warbly, but an interesting watch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 19:43:44 GMT
There are a lot I think about, like Phil Spector records, Muscle Shoals, the Hi records, the Wrecking Crew, but the one that stands out is the Quonset Hut, Owen Bradley's famous studio.
A little about the studio.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 0:21:42 GMT
The other one that comes to mind is Norman Petty's studio in Clovis, New Mexico, where Buddy Holly and Roy Orbison first recorded. I don't know how I came upon them, but Petty needed money and recorded a fair amount of garage rock bands. I have a few of the collections and they're pretty cool.
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Post by nolamike on Dec 18, 2019 14:29:19 GMT
What makes it - the equipment? The production? The musicians? Alternatively, how skilled are a good set of regulars like the Wrecking Crew at adapting so easily into different sounds, like musical chameleons. It's a combination of everything, but one factor not mentioned among these first guesses is the actual space in which the recording takes place. E.g., Stax being inside a former movie theater with the floor and walls sloped towards where the screen was, affecting the acoustics, or the way that Motown's vocal mics all led to an attic crawlspace which served as a makeshift echo/reverb booth. I mean, you can hear the difference on the Stax recordings made elsewhere, and on the Motown recordings made after their move to L.A. In each case, the architecture of the studio helped create the sound. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:35:10 GMT
The most famous recording studio in the SF Bay Area was the Record Plant in Sausalito. Here's kind of a little history. You can go on YouTube and get some of those old KSAN radio recordings from the Record Plant.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:51:30 GMT
As a fan of hip-hop, I should know this as it's really a genre of music that reflects the talents of producers, but I don't know if Dr. Dre, Pharrell, the Bomb Squad, Timbaland, RZA, J Dilla, Rick Rubin, etc, ever had preferred studios to record.
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Post by rayge on Dec 20, 2019 20:08:06 GMT
Getting back to the label-based stuff, surely the Sun studios created a recognisable sound, to do with both the acoustics and the technical ability of Sam Philips, not to mention his A & R abilities. The latter also had something to do with the identities of Chess/Checker, Atlantic, Philles and even Tamla-Motown.
I don't know enough to venture an explanation, or even a theory, but Blue Note records tend to have a similar sound and feel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 21:08:52 GMT
The TSOP stuff too. Most of that's due to Sigler, Gamble and Huff, but I presume that they used the same studio(s) too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2019 22:30:00 GMT
My memory got truly fucked looking after my husband when he was ill and it hasn't really recovered, so I don't know if I've posted this before - if I do repeat stuff just ignore it.
But talking of studios, check out the jobsworths not letting Carol Kaye have a look in one of the Ocean Way studios at the end of this clip
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2020 14:33:29 GMT
Lots really.
In the UK the whole axis of Alan Parker, Allan Holdsworth, Harold McNair, John Cameron, Danny Thompson always produced great records.
The Chicago lot - Richard Evans, Phil Upchurch, Charles Stepney, The White brothers.
On the West Coast anything with Larry Carlton from the late 60s and early 70s is usually good.
I've often got into tracks through the players.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 12:27:50 GMT
I was telling Rayge a little about David Hood the other day ... most of you will have seen that documentary on Muscle Shoals, I think I have it somewhere buried on dvd. A little film on the rhythm section here (*not sure if it's that film, been a while since I've seen it) |
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jul 7, 2020 13:00:08 GMT
The TSOP stuff too. Most of that's due to Sigler, Gamble and Huff, but I presume that they used the same studio(s) too. Yup, Sigma Sound studios, where even Robin Trower recorded his later funky stuff. MFSB/TSOP was later lured away to NYC Fania/Salsoul which has its own sound, but I never listened close enough to discern if it was the same as Philly Int'l once they had MFSB at the helm. |
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