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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:04:51 GMT
This is why I didn't post because it's too much of an emotive issue to have a balanced discussion on. Did you just say I was being emotional?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:06:27 GMT
This is why I didn't post because it's too much of an emotive issue to have a balanced discussion on. Did you just say I was being emotional? No
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:08:26 GMT
But has it not even occurred to you that some of these women might have gone along with what he wanted? And if it has, do you think it is worth bringing up? (genuine question). There's little doubt some did. And no doubt other women did go along with other men. But that still does't negate the fact that people (men or women) shouldn't bloody have to. And it's something women have dealt with to varying degrees in many walks of professional and personal life, just to get on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:16:10 GMT
Not that there aren't a load of whiners crying #metoo. There are a number of reasons it's gone too far in places, not least of which it can detract from the gravity of some of the worse cases.
Germaine Greer says a lot I happen to agree with. She makes the consent/going along with it point clearer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 12:19:10 GMT
On the other hand what some of the ... smaller-scale shall we call it complaints raised in the #metoo movement has succeeded (I thought) in letting guys know just how differently women experience the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 14:22:24 GMT
And don't forget, two women who ... maybe weren't ambitious enough to have sex with him - Mira Sorvino and Ashley Judd (both of whom were established, both of whose families were established in the entertainment industry - those two had real damage done to their careers.
Anyway, don't let my vociferous replies put you off making points - there are good points to be made. I just think remarks like TG's can fuck right off.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 5, 2020 19:46:56 GMT
It's very hard to have an honest and frank discussion on some topics these days. We don't live in that kind of culture anymore.
I felt that with the metoo thing tbh. Everything just got lumped in together regardless of the severity of the accusations. There's so much contradictions and hypocrisy within Hollywood itself as well which made the whole thing seem rather hypocritical and selective. For example, I mind Meryl Streep talking about metoo but then I remember Meryl Streep also giving Polanski a standing ovation too. I'm not sure you can ever really solve the problem of sexual exploitation within that industry because it exists in a bubble and you have people in positions of power who hold the keys to the castle and those who desperately want to enter.
Still waiting on Bryan Singer to face some charges.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 20:17:27 GMT
Yes lots of people - the French for example - continue to excuse Polanski. But one of the whole things about metoo is that people are just not willing to excuse abuses like that any more. On the whole, it's a very welcome development.
*Edit in: unless Polanski made a habit of drugging then buggering 13 year-olds, I do think he'd've been forgive if he'd done his time for that crime.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 5, 2020 20:26:33 GMT
Polanski appears to be a serial offender.
But then look at Bill Clinton for example and how people in Hollywood supported and defended him. He's probably worse than Trump in that regard.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 20:36:08 GMT
Polanski appears to be a serial offender. But then look at Bill Clinton for example and how people in Hollywood supported and defended him. He's probably worse than Trump in that regard. I don't know. You seem to be conflating rapists with philanderers there.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 5, 2020 20:44:17 GMT
He was accused of rape by a Juanita Broaddrick. He has also been accused of other things too of course which aren't simply philandering.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 5, 2020 20:51:55 GMT
'he looked at me in a funny way'
JOKINGjoking
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 20:55:34 GMT
'he looked at me in a funny way' JOKINGjoking What's the point behind that?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 5, 2020 20:57:26 GMT
It was a JOKE
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 20:59:30 GMT
Yes, you said that. But given it wasn't a pun or dada, what was the point in the joke? I'm missing it.
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