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Post by tory on Mar 8, 2021 7:56:32 GMT
Has a truth to it.
Airing your family woes in public like this is pretty nauseating if I'm honest.
I have sympathy for everyone concerned in some respects, but keep it private ffs.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 8, 2021 8:00:11 GMT
Why?
I'm still trying to work through all of this but if Meghan was silenced, if all the talk about 'The Firm' has at least an element of truth then the monarchy has a dark, even evil side we didn't really know about.
Interesting that the split between believing these stories and NOT believing them seems to fall along pre-/post-30 (age) - bit like Brexit, maybe.
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Post by tory on Mar 8, 2021 8:08:26 GMT
What need is there for them to do such a thing?
All families are dysfunctional to a certain extent and I suspect the House of Windsor is a great deal more than most because of its very nature.
I'm inclined to think that both sides are just as bad as each other because it is rare in family disputes that one side is wholly guilty and the other wholly innocent.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 8, 2021 8:08:53 GMT
And this:
Who trashes their own family like that to tens of millions of people? Utterly despicable.
can only have come from an idiot
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 8, 2021 8:11:38 GMT
What need is there for them to do such a thing? All families are dysfunctional to a certain extent and I suspect the House of Windsor is a great deal more than most because of its very nature. I'm inclined to think that both sides are just as bad as each other because it is rare in family disputes that one side is wholly guilty and the other wholly innocent. There was a desire rather than a need - from both sides. Think about what's at stake. Why would they choose to level these accusations at the royal f if they weren't true? I'm holding off from saying any more until I see the interview tonight. But whatever you think about M and H, they clearly had to deal with a lot of shit.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 8, 2021 8:17:41 GMT
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Post by rayge on Mar 8, 2021 8:33:08 GMT
Think about what's at stake. Why would they choose to level these accusations at the royal f if they weren't true? I'm holding off from saying any more until I see the interview tonight. You're going to watch it?
It only encourages them, you know.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 8, 2021 8:39:45 GMT
John fancies her
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Post by tory on Mar 8, 2021 8:55:28 GMT
I think siding from the pov of the Sussexes also has the old "let's get rid of the Monarchy" argument behind it too.
But they are highly privileged and extraordinarily wealthy people. I'm just struggling to feel any sympathy for them to be honest. Harry's mum died nearly 25 years ago - there is an element of "just get on with it" like many other people who have to carry the burden of dreadful trauma and struggle to get through each day without having multi million dollar netflix deals and cosy Californian pals.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 8:58:33 GMT
Harry just married someone like his mother a fucking closet psycho. The cash cow hasn't got much milk left. The revelations have been revealed in all their glory , princess in the tower , nazi like racism and the cherry on the icing of the gossip cake " I thought about ending it all" . Wham bam full house. Seriously , cliché after cliché. You wouldn't have needed much nous to have written the script without even knowing them. It's just this obsession with minor celebrity lives that grates. Life is sooo hard , I have PROBLEMS . I am UNIQUE feel my PAIN. Fuck off.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 8, 2021 8:59:44 GMT
Why? I'm still trying to work through all of this but if Meghan was silenced, if all the talk about 'The Firm' has at least an element of truth then the monarchy has a dark, even evil side we didn't really know about. Interesting that the split between believing these stories and NOT believing them seems to fall along pre-/post-30 (age) - bit like Brexit, maybe. There was a conversation at work when the whole press thing kicked off and the younger women there were all supporting Meghan and thought she was the victim etc. I'm friends with an older woman (in her 60s) called Anne - lovely lady, very sweet - and I said to her that I thought she was a twat and she agreed and she felt sorry for Harry. The way she said it though it was as if she was surprised by people thinking differently. I suspect there is a generational divide here which you'd expect these days. Her whole approach and all this airing of dirty laundry and interviews with Oprah Winfrey doesn't impress people. I think they find it all in rather poor taste and find it undignified. It's modern day celebrity culture versus a bit of old school decorum and modesty innit. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/7-bombshells-meghan-markles-oprah-23626079www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/least-10-ex-aides-meghan-23610311?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referralMaybe there is truth to some of what she says but it's hard to shake the conclusion, given what people have said about her over the years and various accusations of bullying that she is also a massive twat. I think she's a narcissist who loves the attention and loves manipulating people and she has found a way to do this on a grand scale. I suspect a lot of people probably feel fucking move on love, get on with your podcasts and leave the Royal Family alone.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Mar 8, 2021 9:03:52 GMT
Harry just married someone like his mother a fucking closet psycho. The cash cow hasn't got much milk left. The revelations have been revealed in all their glory , princess in the tower , nazi like racism and the cherry on the icing of the gossip cake " I thought about ending it all" . Wham bam full house. Seriously , cliché after cliché. You wouldn't have needed much nous to have written the script without even knowing them. It's just this obsession with minor celebrity lives that grates. Life is sooo hard , I have PROBLEMS . I am UNIQUE feel my PAIN. Fuck off. lol The timing isn't great either. A global pandemic. People really struggling and all this woe is me crap. If she clutches those pears any tighter she might injure a finger but I'm sure noble Harry will kiss it better for her. Pair of roasters. And yet here we are talking about them - hey I started the thread - so they win, we lose, here's Tom with the Weather.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 9:05:06 GMT
What need is there for them to do such a thing? All families are dysfunctional to a certain extent and I suspect the House of Windsor is a great deal more than most because of its very nature. I'm inclined to think that both sides are just as bad as each other because it is rare in family disputes that one side is wholly guilty and the other wholly innocent. There was a desire rather than a need - from both sides. Think about what's at stake. Why would they choose to level these accusations at the royal f if they weren't true? I'm holding off from saying any more until I see the interview tonight. But whatever you think about M and H, they clearly had to deal with a lot of shit. They didn't Johnny , not even close. The only thing that is at stake is their place in the spotlight and cash. You don't put up with shit by taking Oprah's cash and ensuring beforehand that loaded questions (deffo discussed and agreed beforehand) are not in your interest to garner sympathy. This British disease of pity for privelige and their plight, why?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 9:26:44 GMT
Thinking about it. What would have made it compulsive viewing would have been if Madghen had started shaking uncontrollably and suddenly stared at the camera all wide eyed , terror on her face as she screams their all fucking lizards !!
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Post by tory on Mar 8, 2021 9:32:07 GMT
I think the timing really is key - we're in the middle of a global FUCKING PANDEMIC and there are, frankly, much bigger concerns to worry about.
On the other hand, some will view this whole farrago as much needed gossip/entertainment away from worrying about vaccines.
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