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Post by rayge on Feb 26, 2020 13:18:19 GMT
A Grachan Moncur III – Thandiwa
B Wayne Shorter - Deluge
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 26, 2020 17:40:07 GMT
A bored me, B got on my tits.
I suppose that's an
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Post by toomanyhatz on Feb 26, 2020 22:06:46 GMT
Inevitably with such a specific theme, there are some repeats here - Shorter's on both, and this is the second appearance of Moncur. I like the first one a lot more, this is a bit too long and a bit standard.
B is a bit more interesting and probably has the better band. No offense to Herbie Hancock, but I'd rather listen to McCoy Tyner.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 4:30:38 GMT
I found A really boring. B was much better without making me feel I should go out and buy the album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 9:16:15 GMT
Both bored me..B a little less..Vote B
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 28, 2020 20:54:20 GMT
Ooh, GM crops up again. See what I did there, it's not just music taste and good looks you get for free here, rapier sharp wit, too. Not as interesting a track as the one I picked, it suffers from walkingbassline syndrome, a bit too on the bebop standard for me, though Shorter's solo get's going somewhere as he deviates off the beaten track. It does go on a bit, Moncur himself seems to fall asleep during his solo, it just ends in a random place after a minute of vague farty bebopping.
I do own JuJu, but it's not something I dig out often, I think Coltrane, Davis, Coleman and Ayler were all doing much more interesting things with jazz by this point. It's got a stronger set of musicians for me, but it's still a bit hot chocolate and slippers, snoozy snoozy shuffle parp. Cool drumming though. So just about enough.
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Post by fange on Feb 29, 2020 11:38:34 GMT
It's a Wayne Shorter fest! :lol:
Both fine tunes in their way, from albums that aren't really my personal faves from either artist but with lots of great music.
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Post by fonz on Mar 3, 2020 22:31:27 GMT
I prefer B, though there’s plenty to listen to in both tracks.
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Post by osgood on Mar 4, 2020 9:15:57 GMT
Both picks are quite nice. No earth shattering but a pleasure to listen. Standard? Yes. Boring? Not in my book. Hot chocolate and slippers? Could be, but I feel more like some scotch on the rocks, no prob with the slippers. Anyway B offers a tad more to grasp my attention.
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Post by Sneelock on Mar 7, 2020 22:54:01 GMT
A but only by an itty-bitty, teeny-weeny bit.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Mar 8, 2020 14:45:23 GMT
B for me. Tubs! Ooft! B
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 6:42:06 GMT
A's intro struck me as brassy, in several senses of the word. Gets oh-so-quiet later. B wasn't thrilling. In fact it was irritating in places. But a few sweet sections.
Neither delighted me.
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Post by rayge on Mar 9, 2020 17:12:11 GMT
Leaving this until last, as usual. I just don't have any way of understanding jazz, of wrapping it in words, so I just have to let it flow by and see if anything surfaces. Those long and liquid lines of Shorter's sax at the beginning of A for instance are pretty, but then the tenor (ahem) of the piece changes, and there's this rather desultory conversation with Hancock while Tony Williams taps away in the background, and I find myself looking out the window. And then the pianist gets a go on his own, and the tone is much more pleasing and watery, there's an obligatory bass solo and Grachan comes back with a bit of tromboning that's more percussive than I really like from the instrument - that's why it's got a slide, you know. And then it fades away. Wtf am I supposed to make of that?
And B, more of the similar. Tinkly rather than bell-like piano, but it basically just wanders by.
I really haven't got a clue how I'm supposed to judge these things. Nothing to offend me, but I'm glad they're over. A's getting thrashed, so I'll chuck it a vote
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Post by neige on Mar 10, 2020 17:41:50 GMT
Neither left a lasting impression and I'm no jazz buff at all, so
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Post by fange on Mar 11, 2020 8:21:59 GMT
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