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Post by rayge on Mar 6, 2020 14:13:42 GMT
A Depeche Mode - Shout
B Pet Shop Boys - What Have I Done To Deserve This?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 16:49:58 GMT
An oddly tough choice..On one hand, we have one of the few Pet Shop Boys songs I like, but it's a tad obvious..On the other, a rather interesting deep track from a DM album I generally dislike..I find the DM a bit more daring musically, if not vocally..Vote A
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 17:11:23 GMT
I often felt when Depeche Mode tried to sound moody and meaningful the results could be awkward and gauche, like kids trying on their parents clothes. They would get there eventually but they're not there yet on this album. This is a decent attempt at a stern pre-girls Human League sound, but I don't think they add anything interesting or of their own to it. The PSB track is one of their best, jaunty but with a sad, slightly cynical, heart.The entrance of Dusty really feels triumphant and I love the way Tennant's spoken word bits dovetail with the chorus.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Mar 6, 2020 17:29:12 GMT
Considering that this is so very far from my wheelhouse, it shouldn't surprise anybody that I prefer the 'awkward and gauche' A to the more accomplished 'jaunty' B, should it?
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Post by Crunchy Col on Mar 7, 2020 11:58:56 GMT
I have absolutely no use for Depeche Mode. It's all wrong.
That PSB's song is a beauty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 19:10:19 GMT
I often struggle with Depeche Mode, there's often too much of a conflict between being heavy and commercial. This track isn't winning me over. The beat sounds a bit cheap below the production, to me.
B is a joy, a perfect pop song.
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 7, 2020 21:42:38 GMT
Yeah, back on home turf with the synthpop round, and "Shout" is by far and away the greatest thing that Depeche Mode ever recorded, and might even be Vince Clarke's greatest song. You've got to hand it to however told Dave Gahan to stay distant from the mic, so you don't get his usual strident bellowing. The hook in the chorus is a thing of genius, and the way the percussion and "speak and spell" electronics work together in unsual patterns is way ahead of its time, predates Front 242, and was ahead of what DAF were doing at this point.
Now, I've got a lot of time for The Pet Shop Boys, they were a really distinctive band and had a handful of great songs. I wouldn't say that this is one of them, it's a really thin sounding thing, it seems to me that they were struggling with ideas a this point, this following the much superior "Suburbia" and "It's a Sin" singles. It almost sounds like a SAW-era Bananaram song at times, and while Dusty adds a bit of class, it's hardly her finest moment. When it comes down to it, synth-pop in the late 80s just didn't have the grit of the eary 80s, those Fairlights and DX7s were far to clean sounding, and the innovation and energy that the genre founders had displayed has dissipated by this point.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 22:02:01 GMT
An ex had a big thing for Dave Gahan and he would often talk at large on when he was right up close to him as he was rubbing his dick on stage. Which is quite the image.
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Post by fange on Mar 10, 2020 19:53:53 GMT
A is ok, but B is fab.
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Post by neige on Mar 11, 2020 11:17:32 GMT
Had it been Shout by Tears for Fears, I might have voted for it, and I'm not at all averse to Depeche Mode, but this is very minor DM...
And I'm not even much of a Pet Shop Boys fan, but B is great
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Post by rayge on Mar 13, 2020 15:15:12 GMT
I bought the first few DM singles, but never bothered with the albums and gave up on them when Vince left. Curly Gore was much less substantial a songwriter, and Gahan's clueless declaimed vocals are not my idea of a good time. How he got to be some kind of leather-kecked smacked-out stadium-filling rock god is one of my life's many little mysteries. I found this track, for all its evocations of doom, very slight.
A point that ought to have been made on the PSBs vs The Smiths thread is that Moseley Morrisey chose to attempt to revive the career of Sandie Cheekbones, while Tennant went with Musty Dingefield (not one of mine, that). Says something about them, even if I'm not sure what. Anyway, the way her gorgeously distinctive voice suddenly slid in to the middle of this song was a genuine goosebumps moment for me the first time I heard it, and I bought the single forthwith. Can't gainsay the experience even now.
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Post by osgood on Mar 13, 2020 16:38:33 GMT
Hey, I had forgotten to vote here!
B it is.
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Post by Sneelock on Mar 13, 2020 17:42:23 GMT
I actually enjoy the Lysol like antiseptic quality of A but I'll go with B by virtue of the vocal which is actually pretty nice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 22:39:21 GMT
A
Not a huge Pet Shop Boys fan and I like early Depeche Mode.
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Post by oleandermedian on Mar 14, 2020 22:50:41 GMT
DM were one of those rare bands that got better as they got fatter. I’ll never be a fan though. Whereas I can’t actually think of a PSB track I dislike and this one’s fine.
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