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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 9, 2020 19:44:50 GMT
Reading Cave's writeup yesterday led me to finally give it a listen. I like the idea of it as some sort of salve. I dig it.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 9, 2020 19:45:46 GMT
Good bloke is Nick. I wish I liked his music more because I like him.
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 9, 2020 20:06:12 GMT
Just got word that the cancelled May Glasgow gig is now going to happen next April. Not sure even if I'll be in the country then, but I'll make an effort to fly back for him.
Worth getting your hands dirty in that site of his, by the way.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 9, 2020 20:14:17 GMT
I liked it. Some the words are a bit ripe but it gets by on atmosphere and feeling and, yes, there is something nice about hearing his voice again. A bit like a parent reading you a bedtime story.
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Post by Sneelock on Apr 9, 2020 20:19:22 GMT
yeah, I can get why people rate it but the rhymes are so... "out of the blue / a cockatoo flew" youknowwhatimsayin'?
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 9, 2020 21:46:59 GMT
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 9, 2020 21:54:51 GMT
yeah, I can get why people rate it but the rhymes are so... "out of the blue / a cockatoo flew" youknowwhatimsayin'?But, as Nick Cave said in his short critique, Dylan is constantly referencing pop culture tropes and song lyrics, etc. so you can't really blame him for sometimes going for the obvious rhyme. It didn't bother me, but I've never put him on as high a pedestal as many others have.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Apr 10, 2020 7:29:00 GMT
Songs can mean different things to different people - and I guess I’m pretty different from Nick Cave. I don’t get the sense that all of those pop culture references are meant to reassure us. I think there’s some condemnation there.
Dylan was part of pop culture. I think he feels some guilt for allowing himself to be a distraction for a public that didn’t want to fully accept the implications of a Presidential assassination. I think he’s talking about how a culture decides not to see.
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 10, 2020 7:42:26 GMT
I agree with davey on that point.
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 16, 2020 9:07:08 GMT
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Post by oh oooh on Apr 16, 2020 9:07:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 12:11:17 GMT
The article doesn't really say much ( and certainly isn't brave enough to confront some of the hackneyed, clichéd lyrics noted by Charlie), but in a way that's the point. Dylan has now reached a rarified and almost unique position where anything he does or releases is seen as of great cultural import and significance. This is quite an achievement when just about all his contemporaries, to a greater or lesser extent, are seen as has-beens living off past glories.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 16, 2020 12:44:26 GMT
Yeah, I think we need a John Coan reply
Sorta like the Sacred Cow bit you used to get in Uncut? Or was it Mojo?
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Post by fange on Apr 16, 2020 12:46:18 GMT
Careful you boys, Davey will be back to have stern words with you.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Apr 16, 2020 12:51:41 GMT
Coan v Davey....a bit like Biden v Trump!
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