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Post by rayge on Mar 31, 2020 13:55:50 GMT
A Bobby Hutcherson feat. Harold Land - Ummh
B Grant Green – Jean de Fleur
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 14:18:00 GMT
Liked the intro to A a lot. Then the organ kicked in which is very very dated. Better when the sax starts. It's like a really very good soundtrack to a 60s film. The more that cutesy organ becomes a memory, the better it gets. Even the xylophone's good. Overall however, it seems to be a series of instruments going over the same ground with the same backing. Limited. Enjoyable but limited.
The intro to B belongs on the Fast Show. It's niice. Ah the guitar's started, good. Makes it better. Again with the xylophone taking over. This seems somehow much more adult jazz. It goes places. I say that thinking I'm going to vote for A because I just like it more, it's more funky. And A is more accessible to me somehow than B. B's a bit slick. But there are elements to B I can get into .. oh ...
It's the usual thing, like and dislike elements of both.
I'm going for B because it improves on more hearing, it doesn't have that dated organ, and what I like most about A is the funk but this is Bluenote.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 31, 2020 18:32:07 GMT
B is busy, and gets too close to the kind of music you'd get in the cinema intermission where they advertised local curry houses and carpet warehouses.
A is a piece of class, wah and vibes working to keep a more relaxed vibe from getting dull.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Mar 31, 2020 21:39:50 GMT
Nothing wrong with the repeating riff in A per se, it just doesn't do enough outside of it to justify that lack of movement. Nice, and does bring the funk, but had me checking my watch by the end.
B on the other hand, is classic Blue Note without being horn-driven, and has a lot more variation. Just the right combination of traditional and unpredictable for me. The great band is a bonus. (Hutcherson on vibes!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 23:04:45 GMT
I love A. It has such a cool confidence, you can see it strutting down the street winking at you. The sax solo is just my kind of solo, loose enough to be exploratory, but tight enough to keep the groove. I will say the track lost some intensity when the vibes replaced the sax, but that's a very minor criticism of, for me, one of the best tracks of the competition. B was immacutely played, but a little too busy for me and felt comfortably within the mainstream of jazz in a way which made it hard for it to stand out. But it probably suffered a little in coming after A
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 23:54:08 GMT
Vote A, for the bass
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2020 12:11:04 GMT
I'd sooner listen to B again.
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Post by oleandermedian on Apr 3, 2020 18:57:16 GMT
B
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 4, 2020 20:06:32 GMT
Have we had Bobby Hutcherson already in this cup, the name rings a bell? A feels very pedestrian to me, the sax playing is pretty damned smart, but the rest of the track is boring. That wah-wah guitar adds nothing, the rhythm section are entirely perfunctory, the vibes are polite. Very much a library music kind of thing.
B seems to be in a similar vein. If anything, it's even more polite so far, I half expect it to offer me a Werthers original. Well, the Blue Note theme has had some of the standout music of this cup for me, but also had two absolute stinkers in the organ round, and in this wallpaper round.
Abstain.
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Post by fange on Apr 7, 2020 8:18:14 GMT
Excellent match. It's a Bobby Hutch cage fight! A has such an easy warmth to it I find it irresistible; Harold Land has such a perfect West Coast sound for it too, relaxed yet strong, groovy but inventive. B is GG at his hard bop peak, with band to match. And i'll stand in Rollins' boots on Coltrane's coffee table to say it - on his day, Joe Henderson was as good as any tenor sax player doing this music in the '60s. Wonderful stuff.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 7, 2020 8:36:43 GMT
and your vote?
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Post by fange on Apr 7, 2020 9:10:14 GMT
Never you mind, young JC.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 7, 2020 10:10:58 GMT
HA!!
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Post by osgood on Apr 7, 2020 12:56:23 GMT
Both nice, very nice in fact. B gets a penalty for fading out, unacceptable in jazz.
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Post by fange on Apr 20, 2020 9:18:53 GMT
Only 9 voters.
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