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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 31, 2020 15:24:12 GMT
Best-ever Scottish bands, from today's Times
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Post by rayge on May 31, 2020 15:47:49 GMT
That list is even worse than the selection you offered here. Aztec Camera, OJ and the Associates were all bands I collected at the beginning of their careers, and all of them – and at a pinch AI – made better records than the tracks you selected, which is why I didn't vote. Lloyd Cole is of course a joke, but just in the post-punk years, The Fire Engines (and spin-off bands Win! and Nectarine No.9), Scars, Josef K, FK9, Another Pretty Face, The Happy Family and of course the magnificent Prats
all made far better records than most of that lot in the ST list (I have a small soft spot for The Blue Nile and The Waterboys, although I still prefer Mike Scott in APF, but the rest, psh! Kill them with fire, I say).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 4:20:31 GMT
It depends whether your more of an indie/ post punk guy than chart pop. You're more the former, whilst others prefer the bigger, more polished sounds of new pop. Generally BCB and this board have usually privileged the underground and obscure over chart pop. I find that a bit of a tired, rockist attitude which is why I've always found JC's pop sensibility refreshing and a welcome tonic! I was going to do a follow up to this thread focusing on some of the Scottish tracks of the mid eighties. That's when it gets really contentious, as I don't expect much love for the stuff I'll pick!
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Post by The Right Profile on Aug 4, 2020 9:44:41 GMT
( although it would be nice if we talked about some other records sometimes as I do object to the view that PF2 is the only Associates record worth talking about). I think my favourite Associates record has to be the metronome drive of "White Car in Germany", indeed their immediate pre-pop period (as collated on the Fourth Drawer Down compilation) is singularly glacial and alluring. There are times when a little Associates goes a long way, but when it is time to dive in they have so much going for them- Mackenzie's astonishing vocals, which can sound defiant and desperate at once, the lush production and the way they stretch out their grooves. A unique band.
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Post by rayge on Aug 4, 2020 9:47:16 GMT
It depends whether your more of an indie/ post punk guy than chart pop. You're more the former, whilst others prefer the bigger, more polished sounds of new pop. Generally BCB and this board have usually privileged the underground and obscure over chart pop. I find that a bit of a tired, rockist attitude which is why I've always found JC's pop sensibility refreshing and a welcome tonic! I was going to do a follow up to this thread focusing on some of the Scottish tracks of the mid eighties. That's when it gets really contentious, as I don't expect much love for the stuff I'll pick! Do it!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 11:40:28 GMT
All good, which rather makes a lie of the line I trot out 'the 80s was the decade tate forgot and the music was all horribly over-produced'. None of these ones suffer from any of it. Though the Associates one for me gets closest and I really don't like it.
I only voted for Lloyd Cole. There's something outstanding and special about his work and I'm fond of it.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 5, 2022 11:50:00 GMT
It depends whether your more of an indie/ post punk guy than chart pop. You're more the former, whilst others prefer the bigger, more polished sounds of new pop. Generally BCB and this board have usually privileged the underground and obscure over chart pop. I find that a bit of a tired, rockist attitude which is why I've always found JC's pop sensibility refreshing and a welcome tonic! I was going to do a follow up to this thread focusing on some of the Scottish tracks of the mid eighties. That's when it gets really contentious, as I don't expect much love for the stuff I'll pick! Do it! Yeah!
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Dec 5, 2022 12:02:37 GMT
I'd like to hear Willie Nelson do a cover of PF2.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 7, 2022 0:17:39 GMT
I think the stuff I'd pick would just get slagged off or worse ignored. People just aren't ready to reappraise that stuff yet.
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Post by rayge on Dec 7, 2022 0:24:35 GMT
I think the stuff I'd pick would just get slagged off or worse ignored. People just aren't ready to reappraise that stuff yet. what bands are you talking about here, G?
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 7, 2022 0:33:16 GMT
I think the stuff I'd pick would just get slagged off or worse ignored. People just aren't ready to reappraise that stuff yet. what bands are you talking about here, G? I think I was going to pick "Beaking Point" by Bourgie Bourgie, which I love, but was just dismissed by everyone as tacky 80s pop of the worst kind when I posted it to BCB once (whereas I see it as a sweeping, romantic epic in the Walker Bros tradition), "State of Art" by Friends Again, "The Honeythief" by Hipsway and "Texas Lullabye" by James King and The Lone Wolves. I was deliberately going for unabashed pop (although the James King is a bit more of a bridge between indie and pop). I suppose having now talked about it, I may as well do it - but it won't be tonight as I'm off to bed now.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Dec 8, 2022 6:21:10 GMT
I'm realizing there's just not a whole hell of a lot of Scottish pop music that I like. You know you're in trouble when Run Rig perks up your list.
There are some Orange Juice and Waterboys songs I enjoy a great deal. But a Scottish band whose music I listen to with any sort of regularity? Can't think of one.
On the other hand there's a ton of Scottish folk and folk/rock I like. Old Blind Dogs, the extremely resilient Battlefield Band, and most of all the great Dick Gaughan - one of my favorite singers ever.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 8, 2022 6:52:21 GMT
We have two votes for Lloyd Cole here...
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Dec 8, 2022 7:45:31 GMT
I think more great records came out of Scotland than any other place, other than Memphis in the 60s or somewhere like that.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Dec 8, 2022 8:04:57 GMT
Did Hatz just mention Runrig?
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