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Post by cousinlou on May 4, 2020 17:55:54 GMT
Do me a favour and look at the ingredients on your noodles and your spaghetti packets To accomodate you in your quest to be right, I just did. The spaghetti is made from coarsely milled Dorum and the noodles are made from wheat FLOUR.
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Post by rayge on May 4, 2020 18:03:05 GMT
you do know that 'flour' in English is any form of comminuted or powdered plant material, and that durum is a form of wheat? The degree of milling is irrelevant
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Post by cousinlou on May 4, 2020 18:05:10 GMT
silly lads. Pasta is the italian name for the unleavened basic dough, usually but not always made from durum wheat, from which all those shapes, from sheets to vermicelli, are made, and is widely used in many but not all Anglophone countries as a generic term for anything made from pasta, whether freshly made and soft, or dried. So spaghetti 'is' pasta. Noodles is a word derived from German and used in many but not all Anglophone countries to refer to various preparations made from unleavened milled grains (including various forms of wheat as well as rice, and sometimes incorporating other ingredients such as eggs) that are then formed into strings or strips for cooking, and used either fresh or dried, and also used as a generic word for any dish containing or based on the use of noodles. So spaghetti 'is' noodles, although as spaghetti is an Italian word, it is usually called pasta. You're all just squabbling about words, not things. It's like quarreling over whether courgettes, baby marrows or zucchini are different plants, just because different people call them different things, or whether coriander or cilantro, or aubergines or eggplants, are somehow exalted or diminished by having different names. For the love of dog, get a fucking grip. There's far more important things going on in the world, like my toothache g Noodles comes from the German word Knoedeln. Those however refer to anything like small balls or other shapes, eaten in soups or with thing like Gulash. The German Knoedel can and is made from things like Bread, Potatoes or other doughs.
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Post by sloopjohnc on May 4, 2020 18:06:02 GMT
I thought noodles were of Chinese origin. How did they get to be German?
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Post by rayge on May 4, 2020 18:07:57 GMT
I thought noodles were of Chinese origin. How did they get to be German? you're confusing things with their names. Never ends well
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Post by cousinlou on May 4, 2020 18:08:13 GMT
you do know that 'flour' in English is any form of comminuted or powdered plant material, and that durum is a form of wheat? The degree of milling is irrelevant I work in the food industry and I can assure it most definitely makes A big difference. It may be quite telling that heavily milled wheat - flour- is cheaper than whole wheats, despite the clearly higher processing cost. Why that is so is something for another time.
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Post by rayge on May 4, 2020 18:14:06 GMT
you do know that 'flour' in English is any form of comminuted or powdered plant material, and that durum is a form of wheat? The degree of milling is irrelevant I work in the food industry and I can assure it most definitely makes A big difference. It may be quite telling that heavily milled wheat - flour- is cheaper than whole wheats, despite the clearly higher processing cost. Why that is so is something for another time. I meant irrelevant to this discussion, which is essentially about linguistics and Babel, not to the taste, texture or nutritive value of the foodstuffs in question. Apologies for the ambiguity
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Post by ~ / % ? * on May 4, 2020 18:16:44 GMT
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Post by Crunchy Col on May 4, 2020 18:22:08 GMT
Do me a favour and look at the ingredients on your noodles and your spaghetti packets To accomodate you in your quest to be right, I just did. The spaghetti is made from coarsely milled Dorum and the noodles are made from wheat FLOUR. Fair enough. I have the same on my spaghetti. No noodles in the cupboard, but when I looked today in the supermarket (yes I AM THAT SAD) they were also made from durum wheat.
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Post by fonz on May 4, 2020 21:23:56 GMT
Not poodles
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Post by fonz on May 4, 2020 21:30:25 GMT
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Post by fange on May 5, 2020 2:20:08 GMT
Fuck me, you blokes are on fire. Looking forward to the "Are biscotti biscuits?" conundrum being dissected next.
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Post by Crunchy Col on May 5, 2020 3:00:40 GMT
and don't start on Jaffa Cakes!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 3:33:53 GMT
Can tell the difference if eating it for breakfast..
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 9:41:03 GMT
I work in the food industry and I can assure it most definitely makes A big difference. It may be quite telling that heavily milled wheat - flour- is cheaper than whole wheats, despite the clearly higher processing cost. Why that is so is something for another time. I meant irrelevant to this discussion, which is essentially about linguistics and Babel, not to the taste, texture or nutritive value of the foodstuffs in question. Apologies for the ambiguity
But the OP asked if you could tell the difference if blindfolded. Which you could, usually.
It's a bit like asking if scrambled eggs and omelettes are the same thing. Well, yes, but also no.
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