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Post by tory on May 11, 2020 8:52:06 GMT
Soz - back to slagging off Jimbo.
I don't mind Jimbo. He's a bit nuts, I'll fully admit, but he never bothered me.
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Post by sloopjohnc on May 11, 2020 14:49:10 GMT
I truly believe it is these few minutes that motvated the resident conspiracy theorist to try for the White House.
And Obama is still paying, as apparently he is still leading the deep state.
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Post by Crunchy Col on May 11, 2020 15:04:52 GMT
Watergate wasn’t much of a conspiracy. The President’s guys broke into the offices of the DNC to gather some information they hoped they could use. That was the whole thing. The rest was all about covering up. That’s completely different than the load of shit my brother laid on me last night that Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci intentionally developed COVID 19 in order to take over the world. I completely believe that the Watergate kind of conspiracy happens. I even believe that Russia tried to influence our election, and that we’ve done similar to other countries. Geopolitical intrigue doesn’t seem far-fetched. Watergate was a cover-up, right? Do all conspiracy theories involve cover-ups? (genuine question - I haven't thought about this much)
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 11, 2020 15:31:40 GMT
What conspiracy theories do you think hold weight?
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Post by Crunchy Col on May 11, 2020 15:40:17 GMT
JFK is the most famous example, right? and I don't (now) think of those ideas as 'conspiracy theories', more that the official line doesn't make logical sense. So people try to find other explanations.
Maybe the story about the FBI killing Marilyn, too.
The other stuff I know of, the classic examples - 9/11, the Moon landings, Diana - all bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:46:45 GMT
I've seen the idea that Covid-19 may have escaped from a Wuhan laboratory dismissed as a conspiracy theory, but it seems all too plausible to me.
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Post by Crunchy Col on May 11, 2020 15:48:22 GMT
Maybe if Trump hadn't blabbed that one from his podium, more people would have found it likely
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Post by tory on May 11, 2020 15:51:50 GMT
I've seen the idea that Covid-19 may have escaped from a Wuhan laboratory dismissed as a conspiracy theory, but it seems all too plausible to me. If it had been *deliberately* let out of the laboratory, then that's moving towards a conspiracy theory because it's based on speculation and posits certain actors as agents working towards some nefarious purpose. The likelihood of that scenario is that someone made a blunder and organisations/institutions move to cover up the mistake.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:53:14 GMT
JFK is the most famous example, right? and I don't (now) think of those ideas as 'conspiracy theories', more that the official line doesn't make logical sense. So people try to find other explanations. Maybe the story about the FBI killing Marilyn, too. The other stuff I know of, the classic examples - 9/11, the Moon landings, Diana - all bullshit. Conspiracy theory is anything where the truth has been covered up in some way by the powerful and there many examples of that happening in history. The problem is today people tend to associate the term with the kind of modern 'lizards are ruling the world' meta narratives and, unsurprisingly, want to distance themselves from it as far away as possible. But there are more shades of grey here than we like to admit.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 11, 2020 15:53:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 15:54:36 GMT
I've seen the idea that Covid-19 may have escaped from a Wuhan laboratory dismissed as a conspiracy theory, but it seems all too plausible to me. If it had been *deliberately* let out of the laboratory, then that's moving towards a conspiracy theory because it's based on speculation and posits certain actors as agents working towards some nefarious purpose. The likelihood of that scenario is that someone made a blunder and organisations/institutions move to cover up the mistake. Yes, I didn't suggest deliberately.
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Post by Sneelock on May 11, 2020 16:02:33 GMT
TRUMP & Pompeo say they have proof that the virus was deliberately engineered by the Chinese. Until they back this up with proof people who say it are engaging in spreading a conspiracy theory.
By the same token, if I say I think BARR is helping TRUMP discredit the law enforcement entity that knew he was a security risk and why... This is also a conspiracy because I have no proof. Back in the old days, when we had separate and equal branches of government - journalists and law enforcement would get this info out however selectively & imperfectly. Now that the executive branch has declared the FBI & the 4th estate as “enemies of the people” we face IMO a constitutional crisis.
I’m not sure the constitution gives me the right to flout public safety concerns or lug an AR-15 to the McDonalds. I AM pretty sure that it says the executive branch be subject to oversight.
So, everything is a conspiracy theory if you have the light switch impounded.
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Post by sloopjohnc on May 11, 2020 16:10:46 GMT
TRUMP & Pompeo say they have proof that the virus was deliberately engineered by the Chinese. Until they back this up with proof people who say it are engaging in spreading a conspiracy theory. By the Sam token, if I say I think BARR is helping TRUMP discredit the law enforcement entity that knew he was a security risk and why... This is also a conspiracy because I have no proof. Back in the old days, when we had separate and equal branches of government - journalists and law enforcement would get this info out however selectively & imperfectly. Now that the executive branch has declared the FBI & the 4th estate as “enemies of the people” we face IMO a constitutional crisis. I’m not sure the constitution gives me the right to flaunt public safety concerns or lug an AR-15 to the McDonalds. I AM pretty sure that it says the executive branch be subject to oversight. It was a Subway, not a McDonald's. There you are. . . trying to create another conspiracy.
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Post by Sneelock on May 11, 2020 16:15:18 GMT
hear that Ronald? let me out of here!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2020 8:08:25 GMT
I see the pentagon released some videos of UFOs the other day.
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