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Post by tory on May 18, 2021 10:28:23 GMT
In an ever-more rational world that has been thoroughly mapped and explored, anything that is beyond what we know or think we know in a mythical realm is of absolute intrigue and interest to us.
I believe that we are inherently drawn to that sort of thing. When I read about hypersonic ships or the potential for aliens, I'm drawn to it because I want to believe deep down that it is true. Cryptozoology fascinates me to a certain extent because, yeah, I want to believe that there is a Plesiosaur swimming around in a Scottish lake.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 18, 2021 10:51:13 GMT
In an ever-more rational world that has been thoroughly mapped and explored, anything that is beyond what we know or think we know in a mythical realm is of absolute intrigue and interest to us. I believe that we are inherently drawn to that sort of thing. When I read about hypersonic ships or the potential for aliens, I'm drawn to it because I want to believe deep down that it is true. Cryptozoology fascinates me to a certain extent because, yeah, I want to believe that there is a Plesiosaur swimming around in a Scottish lake. It's interesting because it's one of those subjects where you can feel the irrational, emotional part of your brain driving things rather than the rational, sceptical, critical part simply because of our desire to want to believe in this.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 18, 2021 10:54:22 GMT
Maybe it was Madonna scouting for African children to adopt. "it had evil eyes!"
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Post by rayge on May 18, 2021 11:18:37 GMT
What would it take to convince you? Nothing. Conviction is a trick of the mind. There is no truth 'out there'. I'm quite happy with that. FWIW I have considered myself a Fortean (more or less) for decades, but people seem to forget that along with his insistence that evidence should not be dismissed because it does not fit a theory or belief, he certainly did not advocate believing evidence without rigorous testing, and certainly always consier where the evidence came from, who is presenting it, who benefits, what method was used to collect it, and so on. He was an arch skeptic (a word that has shifted meaning a bit recently to suggest a professional debunker, anti-mystic, rather than someone who simply takes nothing on trust and keeps their mind as open as consonant with sanity).
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 12:01:35 GMT
In an ever-more rational world that has been thoroughly mapped and explored, anything that is beyond what we know or think we know in a mythical realm is of absolute intrigue and interest to us. I believe that we are inherently drawn to that sort of thing. When I read about hypersonic ships or the potential for aliens, I'm drawn to it because I want to believe deep down that it is true. Cryptozoology fascinates me to a certain extent because, yeah, I want to believe that there is a Plesiosaur swimming around in a Scottish lake. It's interesting because it's one of those subjects where you can feel the irrational, emotional part of your brain driving things rather than the rational, sceptical, critical part simply because of our desire to want to believe in this. That seems rather pat to me, not that it isn't without some foundation, but I think it should be acknowledged that there is genuine evidence out there. I don't think it's just a psychological form of wish fulfillment.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 12:46:49 GMT
I am unsure what the evidence is G ?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 13:02:28 GMT
I am unsure what the evidence is G ? It's one of those things where you have to look for it yourself, but every month there seems to be hundreds of sightings throughout the world. In addition more and more military and senior figures, including politicians, are saying that there' s something going on. I will try and find some links for you later when I have more time.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 13:16:52 GMT
Interesting link - thanks. It doesn't debunk the story. It does expose flaws in the way the information was collated, but then if this phenomena is not taken seriously by academics, why would you expect them to get involved in a subsequent investigation? It's interesting that none of the children, who are now adults, have recanted their story as far as I'm aware. No and they never will I think. Mass hysteria has a history and is (as much as it can be) grounded in factual evidence. Yeah. I know. You could counter against it. Is there a modern example of a whole group of people seeing something that wasn't actually there?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 13:29:23 GMT
No and they never will I think. Mass hysteria has a history and is (as much as it can be) grounded in factual evidence. Yeah. I know. You could counter against it. Is there a modern example of a whole group of people seeing something that wasn't actually there? Yeah, attractive football at the Emirates or title winning sides at Anfield. Then there is the Live aid experience. I will have a search for some links.
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Post by daveythefatboy on May 18, 2021 13:37:48 GMT
I see the pentagon released some videos of UFOs the other day. I haven really been engaging on this, but... If the Pentagon released videos, where exactly is the conspiracy in this particular conspiracy?
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 18, 2021 13:40:14 GMT
No and they never will I think. Mass hysteria has a history and is (as much as it can be) grounded in factual evidence. Yeah. I know. You could counter against it. Is there a modern example of a whole group of people seeing something that wasn't actually there? I suspect the kids encountered something. It could have been something out of the ordinary for them and from this event they experienced some kind of collective delusion influenced by external cultural factors and they created a kind of shared interpretation that became Real in their minds. I think that's plausible.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2021 13:46:50 GMT
Is there a modern example of a whole group of people seeing something that wasn't actually there? I suspect the kids encountered something. It could have been something out of the ordinary for them and from this event they experienced some kind of collective delusion influenced by external cultural factors and they created a kind of shared interpretation that became Real in their minds. I think that's plausible. Well, that and the other 200 kids not seeing anything.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 18, 2021 13:48:43 GMT
LYING LITTLE SHITS!
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Post by cousinlou on May 18, 2021 14:07:46 GMT
It is fascinating but at the same time it leaves me wondering why some highly advanced alien would think anything worthwhile could come from declaring to a schoolkid earthlings need to get less tech focused.
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Post by tory on May 18, 2021 14:10:51 GMT
Yeah if they're so fucking advanced why didn't they just go to the President of the USA eh? LIKE IN THE MOVIES
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