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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 20:39:21 GMT
let's rave about this neglected stones gem. the last of the put-down songs from the mid-60s. the arrangement and instrumentation is quite stunning. one of brian jones' best contributions playing marimba and with jack nitzsche on harpsichord. if anything, the backing track is even more interesting than the completed version with vocals. it really highlights the amazing layers of the track.
discuss if you will:
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jan 30, 2019 21:00:12 GMT
@msthang will be happy you posted the instrumental version It's great. In some ways its orchestral layers and sweeps are more reminiscent of somebody like James Last than the Stones themselves (the only thing here that reminds you you're listening to the band is the short burst of fuzz guitar than bursts in just over a minute in).
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Post by phenomenalcat on Jan 30, 2019 21:24:41 GMT
The album opener! BOLD.
There's really nothing else like it. The only weak spot is that The Stones were vocally challenged ("Nobody in the WER-HER-HER-HERLD!")
But I love it. The whole thing pulsates.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 21:50:37 GMT
@msthang will be happy you posted the instrumental version No no. I know my place. You're taking this very personal, Coan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 8:21:57 GMT
Sorry for hijacking your thread, skope, but talking of Stones and women, I've a question ...
Which Stones women were not blonde (either bottle or natural)?
Ta
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 8:26:21 GMT
Sorry for hijacking your thread, skope, but talking of Stones and women, I've a question ... Which Stones women were not blonde (either bottle or natural)? Ta Linda Keith and Chrissie Shrimpton spring to mind...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 8:33:54 GMT
Ahh thank you. It wasn't a pointless question, I'm helping a friend on a project that's going to end up being published and he mentioned Stones women, I was hoping to add an adjective.
Ta.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 9:09:23 GMT
Shrimpton was the source of ire for the mid-60s put-downs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 9:18:11 GMT
Really? Interesting. Which songs exactly?
Not 'under my thumb', for example. Aside from Coan's joking, I always thought that dickish.
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Post by DarknessFish on Feb 1, 2019 9:41:53 GMT
That's actually a lovely piece of music, I never thought I'd hear something interesting relating to The Stones ever again. Could imagine it fitting into place on a mid 90s post-rock album, or even on Staffraen Hakon's early stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 10:09:55 GMT
Really? Interesting. Which songs exactly? yesterday's papers is about her. she represented the out-of-date dolly bird as opposed to free-spirited hippy chick like faithful and pallenberg.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 1, 2019 10:34:28 GMT
They lost a lot with Jones gone. I love some of the instrumental touches he added during that Dandy period. They offered so much extra colour and flash to some of those records, really elevating them you know? They were never the same afterwards.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 1, 2019 10:36:34 GMT
Really? Interesting. Which songs exactly? Not 'under my thumb', for example. Aside from Coan's joking, I always thought that dickish.
Its misogyny is unpleasant, especially from our modern, more enlightened perspective but I guess it tells you something about the times. Was this sorta stuff commented on much back then?
It's a great record though, such a killer groove. I also love Stupid Girl that mines similar terrority but without the darker, possessive edge of Under My Thumb
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 10:53:57 GMT
They lost a lot with Jones gone. I love some of the instrumental touches he added during that Dandy period. They offered so much extra colour and flash to some of those records, really elevating them you know? They were never the same afterwards. completely agree. i know 'between the buttons' has been done to death on bcb but it really is a stand-out album in their canon. another song from it which i really love is 'who's been sleeping here?' i don't think that song has ever been discussed at length, but it's clearly influenced by dylan. in fact, blonde on blonde was playing at the time of the redland's bust. as for their 'dandy' period, they never looked better than on the infamous london palladium performance. just look at jones, fucking outrageous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 13:50:02 GMT
I guess it tells you something about the times. Was this sorta stuff commented on much back then? Hm .. it tells me more about the people doing that kinda song. Chris Martin I believe did a song along the lines of "you dumped me but I wouldn't look twice at you now" though I forget which one that is. Not to forget Ceelo Green's 'Fuck you'. It's an understandable, triumph-over-heartbreak sentiment, though "under my thumb" does take it a bit far. And no it wouldn't have been discussed much back then it was certainly still obviously dickish. Back to blondes - were any Stones women in the late seventies and through the eighties non-blondes?
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