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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 25, 2020 19:42:59 GMT
Organise these folk from brightest to thickest:
Donald Trump Victoria Beckham Ringo Starr Kanye West Tom Cruise Kim Kardashian Prince Andrew Dave Grohl Michael Caine Joan Collins Sarah Palin Joe Biden Ricky Gervais
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 25, 2020 19:51:43 GMT
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jun 25, 2020 20:01:00 GMT
I think there are degrees of thickoness.
There are savants, arrogant, and the misguided in that list.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 20:13:27 GMT
An impossible task unless you know them all well, and I know some of these barely more than by name.
Donald Trump - pigshit would be embarrassed to be that thick. (He's a narcissist which accounts for a lot of it)
Ringo Starr - doesn't seen that bright.
Kanye West - like Trump, there's more than intelligence or lack of it at play here.
Tom Cruise - he doesn't seem to be that thick until you realise he's a scientologist.
Sarah Palin - know little about her but she seems to be about this level.
Prince Andrew - a bit thick but he just doesn't see himself from outside the privileged world he's always lived in.
Kim Kardashian - shallow yes, thick? I've never seen an episode or interview so wouldn't know.
Michael Caine - not thick but not convincing either (his arguments for some things).
Joe Biden - don't know really, saw some of this talks - is he about this level?
Victoria Beckham - quite bright I've heard, certainly canny.
Joan Collins - seems bright, from what I've seen and can remember.
Ricky Gervais - many hate him but he's bright.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jun 25, 2020 20:32:26 GMT
only really two matter for full knucklehead status: Boris and Donald
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 25, 2020 20:35:26 GMT
Boris is a very bright man. He's just not serious about his job.
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Post by tory on Jun 25, 2020 20:50:25 GMT
If Donald Trump is thick, why is he President of the USA?
I mean, the guy obviously has deplorable rhetoric and seems to have little or no fluency in terms of his ability to articulate things, but to say he's stupid is silly. He is obviously intelligent in a "fox/cunning" way I think and understood American voters and their voting tendencies in a way that all manner of Ivy League Republican candidates didn't. That shows intelligence, even if it's not the sort of intelligence one might like or agree with.
Or are we equating/conflating "intelligence" with morality?
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jun 25, 2020 20:54:38 GMT
I think since Reagan it has been clear the machinery surrounding the man is waaaaaaaaay more important than the man. Trump didn't orchestrate his campaign.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jun 25, 2020 20:59:29 GMT
Boris is a very bright man. He's just not serious about his job. Deep deep cover as a buffoon
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 25, 2020 20:59:53 GMT
He is obviously intelligent in a "fox/cunning" way I think and understood American voters and their voting tendencies in a way that all manner of Ivy League Republican candidates didn't. That shows intelligence, even if it's not the sort of intelligence one might like or agree with. I've heard this argument a few times now - 'oh, don't underestimate him! he's actually very crafty!'. I'm not at all convinced. It reminds me of people defending blank canvases hanging in art galleries - 'oh you think it's rubbish, do you? well that shows how ignorant YOU are! why don't YOU give it a go? see how easy it is !' I mean, it IS possible Trump was just in the right place at the right time - and he had a lot of people willing him to succeed? no? my ranking: Ricky Gervais Joe Biden Dave Grohl Michael Caine Tom Cruise Prince Andrew Kim Kardashian Kanye West Joan Collins Donald Trump Sarah Palin Victoria Beckham Ringo Starr
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Post by toomanyhatz on Jun 25, 2020 21:03:37 GMT
The stuff about politicians lacking intelligence - I always think it's a cover. Thought the same thing about Bush the Younger ("W"). It takes a certain amount of intelligence to coast through life, as well as to get people talking about how dumb you are instead of all the evil shit you're masterminding.
My list would be pretty close to thang's, though I don't think Trump's dumb. I think he's addled, but that's a different story.
Likewise Gervais is smug as shit, but he's no idiot.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jun 25, 2020 21:05:58 GMT
Bush W was a figure head, Cheney ran the show.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 25, 2020 21:43:27 GMT
TRUMP might not be dumb but he's too lazy to be smart. according to Bolton he can't be bothered with procedure or geography or anything that doesn't have his BUTT attached to it. sure, he's crafty and he knows how to appeal to the very WORST in people - that takes some sort of skill.
He's a know it all. he thinks he knows everything that's important. maybe "dumb" or "thick" aren't the right words. anybody got a problem with " DICK"?
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jun 25, 2020 21:52:19 GMT
If Donald Trump is thick, why is he President of the USA? I mean, the guy obviously has deplorable rhetoric and seems to have little or no fluency in terms of his ability to articulate things, but to say he's stupid is silly. He is obviously intelligent in a "fox/cunning" way I think and understood American voters and their voting tendencies in a way that all manner of Ivy League Republican candidates didn't. That shows intelligence, even if it's not the sort of intelligence one might like or agree with. People call Trump a marketing genius, but the only genius he has is applying the method of frequency to his message. He just drums them into people's heads enough times or puts his name in front of your eyes enough times where it becomes memorable. He's brazen, but I don't know if that's necessarily a talent. His competition ran one of the worst presidential campaigns in history. That's how he won. He has bankrupted five companies, one of them a casino. What kind of idiot can't make a casino successful? His dad, Russian and Saudi money and Duetsche Bank have propped up his real estate interests because he was dead in the water getting established loans from real banks. The man is an eel.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 25, 2020 21:54:28 GMT
...only not as cute.
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