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Post by Sneelock on Jun 26, 2020 22:33:29 GMT
never argued with Davey before? you'll learn to love it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 22:49:12 GMT
Ha ha ... no, I wasn't annoyed. No, I'm used to explaining things here which aren't got at all (most people agreed with his post - his post which wasn't contrary to what I'd said but was presented as such and his post was regressively over-simplifying things I'd already covered to my mind), I figure it's as I'm not explaining clearly enough so there's no point in continuing not to explain, if you know what I mean. It's OK.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Jun 27, 2020 4:02:22 GMT
never argued with Davey before? you'll learn to love it! Ha! Not much of an “argument” thus far. And no, msthang - my use of the word “canny” wasn’t really meant as a direct address to your post. I just picked the word out of from you as a stand-in for all the words written here that I thought gave the guy too much credit. I take your points in your subsequent post (and of course I AM oversimplifying - as we are reducing a person’s intelligence across the board to a binary). But I DO largely stand by my characterization of him - and I DO think you give him too much credit when you imagine that he’d be successful without the inheritance (albeit - successful in a bullshit-dependent career). I’m not so sure about that. I think his brazenness is a direct outgrowth of his wealth. Most of us can’t afford to be shameless. We have to please bosses and teachers and any number of gatekeepers who hold bits of our future in their hands. But you know the term “fuck you money”? Well Trump was born with it. He’s never had to care. It is possible that an average Joe version of Trump could be born just as broken. But I doubt that guy would be as empowered in his brokenness. He’d probably just pull the wings off of butterflies and abuse his loved ones. But no - I don’t think he’s smart.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 27, 2020 4:57:54 GMT
I don’t think he could find his ass with both hands. I do think he could convince a lot of people to pay him money and do it for him.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jun 27, 2020 5:02:56 GMT
Just like Sting when the grape harvest is nigh!
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 27, 2020 5:03:58 GMT
“you know the term “fuck you money”? Well Trump was born with it. He’s never had to care.”
Exactly! I also think this is the basis of his appeal to a great many people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:19:17 GMT
Ricky Gervais Joe Biden Michael Caine Donald Trump Kanye West Dave Grohl Sarah Palin Joan Collins Victoria Beckham Tom Cruise Kim Kardashian Prince Andrew Ringo Starr
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:31:13 GMT
Why's Cruise seen as thick?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:34:26 GMT
Don't now but his adherence to Scientology is the only truly stupid stuff I've seen from him. Like Trump, though,that comes from a psychological need. (Not saying that's the only way Trump is stupid, far from it.)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:38:31 GMT
Ricky Gervais - Not thick Joe Biden -? Michael Caine - Not thick Donald Trump - Thick Kanye West - Very lacking in humility and self-awareness, but not thick Dave Grohl - Not thick Sarah Palin - ? Joan Collins - ? Victoria Beckham - Not thick Tom Cruise - ? Kim Kardashian - ? Prince Andrew - thick Ringo Starr - thick
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:42:08 GMT
Why's Cruise seen as thick? I could be in jimbo mode here, but i don't think he has made decision about any major part of his life since he joined the Scientology. That's not smart. Outside of him killing someone or something like that, i'd let the science crew release his "secrets" just to get free.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:42:29 GMT
Don't now but his adherence to Scientology is the only truly stupid stuff I've seen from him. Like Trump, though,that comes from a psychological need. (Not saying that's the only way Trump is stupid, far from it.) Beck's into it as well isn't he and he seems pretty intelligent. I don't understand its appeal and it's as dodgy as hell, but it seems to 'work' for rich people ( well some of them anyway).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:46:36 GMT
Why's Cruise seen as thick? I could be in jimbo mode here, but i don't think he has made decision about any major part of his life since he joined the Scientology. That's not smart. Outside of him killing someone or something like that, i'd let the science crew release his "secrets" just to get free. He's had an incredibly successful film career and seems happy enough. It's not like he's imprisoned in a cult. I bet they give him plenty of lassitude as he's their golden boy and the best PR they've got.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 12:49:25 GMT
I could be in jimbo mode here, but i don't think he has made decision about any major part of his life since he joined the Scientology. That's not smart. Outside of him killing someone or something like that, i'd let the science crew release his "secrets" just to get free. He's had an incredibly successful film career and seems happy enough. It's not like he's imprisoned in a cult. I bet they give him plenty of lassitude as he's their golden boy and the best PR they've got. You should watch a few documentaries on it G. If you still get the feeling he's not imprisoned so to speak in a cult, then i don't know what to tell ya.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 13:29:41 GMT
Don't now but his adherence to Scientology is the only truly stupid stuff I've seen from him. Like Trump, though,that comes from a psychological need. (Not saying that's the only way Trump is stupid, far from it.) Beck's into it as well isn't he and he seems pretty intelligent. I don't understand its appeal and it's as dodgy as hell, but it seems to 'work' for rich people ( well some of them anyway). Sure but I've not heard anything about Beck and his Scientology whereas I've heard a bit about Cruise, like how his wife had to give birth in silence (and the theory behind it won't go into it) etc.
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