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Post by Charlie O. on Aug 27, 2020 18:49:49 GMT
Also: canon is canon for good reason(s), usually; if one is just "getting into" any genre, there's no reason not to start there.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Aug 27, 2020 19:08:00 GMT
Also, if you want to learn about the history of country music, at least from about 1950 on, Willie's work will teach you a lot - he worked with a lot of the principals, and always acknowledged their influence. Likewise for standards, Hot Club Jazz (he has repeatedly cited Django Reinhardt as his biggest influence), and pop music in general (similarly hip to 'songwriters of the day' as Cash). But by all means, keep pushing that "canon" narrative.
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Post by fonz on Aug 27, 2020 21:02:50 GMT
You can do a hell of a lot better than nelson if you’re just starting out on country music, fonzie. the 2 dave’s are renowned pushers of the canon. Dig a little deeper into the oeuvre and you will be rewarded. I’ll put my knowledge of deep country music against yours any day, skopey. ‘Deep Country’ That sounds intense. Where should I start?
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 28, 2020 8:38:30 GMT
Also, if you want to learn about the history of country music, at least from about 1950 on, Willie's work will teach you a lot - he worked with a lot of the principals, and always acknowledged their influence. do people actually listen to music in order to be taught?
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 28, 2020 8:42:20 GMT
I’ll put my knowledge of deep country music against yours any day, skopey. ‘Deep Country’ That sounds intense. Where should I start? yes, i'll be interested in davey's recommendations too, fonzie. 'deep country' is not a sub-genre i'm familiar with, at least not by name. although, knowing davey, it probably includes an obscure country track by bill 'bloody' withers.
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Post by daveythefatboy on Aug 28, 2020 16:18:32 GMT
‘Deep Country’ That sounds intense. Where should I start? yes, i'll be interested in davey's recommendations too, fonzie. 'deep country' is not a sub-genre i'm familiar with, at least not by name. although, knowing davey, it probably includes an obscure country track by bill 'bloody' withers. Deep country isn’t a genre. It’s just the same concept as deep soul. Just talking about going deeper than the so-called canon. Though personally, I think skope’s weird fixation on obscurity is kind of pathetic. Especially given the fact that nothing he ever touts is really all that revelatory. But whatever. Life’s too short to waste on pissing matches with people who think anybody cares about their Wimple Winch comps. I’m happy to talk country music. I am by no means an expert, but I guarantee you my knowledge goes a lot deeper than skope’s. My personal taste veers towards the singer-songwriter edge of the genre. A bunch of years ago there was a country cup at BCB. I can’t find my list, but I’ll throw a few selections in from my memory of it (or things I was considering at the time). These aren’t so-much ‘deep’ or ‘obscure’ country. A lot of it is pretty well-known, and all of it is pretty old. But it will give a sense of what I like: The Chair - Marty Robbins The Waltz of the Angels - Lefty Frizzell Life Turned Her That Way - Conway Twitty Then You Walk In - Sammi Smith Homecoming - Tom T. Hall The Cold Hard Facts of Life - Porter Waggoner Snowblind Friend - Hoyt Axton Till the Rivers All Run Dry - Don Williams Someday When Things Are Good - Leonna Williams I Washed My Hands in Muddy Water - Stonewall Jackson I’ll Take the Chance - The Browns Would You Lay With Me (In a Field of Stone) - David Allan Coe
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Post by toomanyhatz on Aug 28, 2020 18:17:57 GMT
Also, if you want to learn about the history of country music, at least from about 1950 on, Willie's work will teach you a lot - he worked with a lot of the principals, and always acknowledged their influence. do people actually listen to music in order to be taught? Are you joking? Of course they do!
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 28, 2020 21:36:27 GMT
yes, i'll be interested in davey's recommendations too, fonzie. 'deep country' is not a sub-genre i'm familiar with, at least not by name. although, knowing davey, it probably includes an obscure country track by bill 'bloody' withers. Deep country isn’t a genre. It’s just the same concept as deep soul. Just talking about going deeper than the so-called canon. Though personally, I think skope’s weird fixation on obscurity is kind of pathetic. Especially given the fact that nothing he ever touts is really all that revelatory. if a bit of gentle ribbing is going to be responsible for your best post in years, then i'm quite happy to surf the ride, albeit if it's done with a little anger.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 28, 2020 21:41:40 GMT
do people actually listen to music in order to be taught? Are you joking? Of course they do! really? wow. no wonder i've never been able to understand the WCC. music is passion and feeling. you don't need a degree to appreciate it.
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Post by Charlie O. on Aug 28, 2020 23:07:01 GMT
Are you joking? Of course they do! really? wow. no wonder i've never been able to understand the WCC. music is passion and feeling. you don't need a degree to appreciate it. Feeling and learning aren't mutually exclusive. If your music only ever tells you what you already know, I'd suggest you're in a rut.
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Post by fonz on Aug 29, 2020 6:46:13 GMT
Well, thanks Davey. I listened to most of those deep tracks. Some were more 'me' than others. I think if 'The Chair' had a more sinister edge it would have been cooler. I liked the harmonies on the Browns' song. A country take of Sabbath's 'Snowblind'. And I like Coe's dress-sense. Sorry skope. These guys know how to dress!
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