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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 17:00:21 GMT
Sloop has "connections"! LOL Careful man.
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Post by fonz on Sept 25, 2020 18:18:49 GMT
I guess my main reasons are: 1. To try and discover new music 2. To pass the time on and chat about stuff I'm interested in when I've nowt better to do. I'm not sure I get a lot of new music from this site, or BCB, though the cups certainly help in that regard. But that's normally the thing isn't it? Share your favourites with other people, learn to judge who has similar tastes, and pick up things from them. It's probably the safest mechanism, especially when coupled with a handy youtube link or two. So here, where I do spend a lot of my time, I guess it's a big chunk of 2, which is a bit of bantz with the ladz, and occasional galz. Mostly it's just a reason to pick out a tune or band from the dim and distant past, and hope there's something interesting or funny to say. Even though the recent Beatles vs VU thread has seen an increase in discussion, actually comparing two bands/albums and trying to say one is better than the other on objective grounds is a bit silly. I'm not going to say Unknown Pleasures is better than Pet Sounds (I did say that, btw), but I love one, don't care about the other at all, and I'm happy that they serve different purposes for different people. Why music is what I'm obsessed with, or what I am drawn to, I have no idea. Film or literature seems more socially acceptable, but fuck film, generally, and while I love literature, the people who discuss that are normally deeply tedious. I miss Loki. A musical kindred spirit. I ‘know’ she was a wonderful human being, just because... she was kind, and generous, with her thoughts about music, on here, and the other place. That human component to this place is what keeps me engaged.
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Post by fonz on Sept 25, 2020 21:44:29 GMT
I think that what I mean is that this place is full of folks that came for the music, but stayed for the conversation. Amongst them all, a few stand out, and with them, there’s some stuff that doesn’t need to be said. It’s understood, but with no value judgement ( in terms of whether musician A is ‘better’ than musician B), rather than ‘ have a listen to this. You might like it’’.
There’s no antagonism necessary. Or condescension. Just a friendly nod in the direction of something you might like.
No one is going to get their musical compass blown off-course here. But, when you find a kindred spirit you’re more likely to listen to some clues and find some new stuff, and maybe, get a different perspective on stuff you thought you knew.
Bless you m, Steph, and a Friday night raise of the glass to the rest of you all. To paraphrase Frank, Music is the best.
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 25, 2020 23:10:45 GMT
Fonz nails it. My glass is raised.
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Post by fange on Sept 26, 2020 0:53:33 GMT
Yep, well said fonzy.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Sept 26, 2020 3:16:10 GMT
The knowledge base is constricting.
Context for many things is getting lost.
There is only so much to say about anything, and that can kill enthusiasm. Whilst at the same time someone's enthusiasm can make one reconsider a band, artist, etc., Listen long enough and open enough artists once not interesting will line up, whilst others never never will.
I have found am more interested in playing music, making music, than listening, but it is different now. Acoustic in fact, with a certain RnR sensibility, as one with a cache of flight cases, amps, and effects, from a different life, we need some beauty. Acoustic doesn't allow for the fudging that electricity can allow. Moving forward music is renewing its root genres whilst also enabling/welcoming more and more cross-pollination. There is exciting stuff percolating below.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Sept 26, 2020 4:32:17 GMT
Oh Gav how EXCITING!
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Post by fonz on Sept 26, 2020 6:18:24 GMT
The knowledge base is constricting. Context for many things is getting lost. There is only so much to say about anything, and that can kill enthusiasm. Whilst at the same time someone's enthusiasm can make one reconsider a band, artist, etc., Listen long enough and open enough artists once not interesting will line up, whilst others never never will. I have found am more interested in playing music, making music, than listening, but it is different now. Acoustic in fact, with a certain RnR sensibility, as one with a cache of flight cases, amps, and effects, from a different life, we need some beauty. Acoustic doesn't allow for the fudging that electricity can allow. Moving forward music is renewing its root genres whilst also enabling/welcoming more and more cross-pollination. There is exciting stuff percolating below. I think I know what you mean wrt to your creative side. I’m sort of doing the opposite in terms of electricity. I’m teaching myself ‘synthesis’ and ‘electronics’, in contrast to 30-odd years of guitar obsession. It’s healthy, and I’m listening to a lot of new (to me) music as a result, which is exciting. However, the pull of the big hair, the monstrous guitar tones, and double-kick drums is often too much. I think perhaps my sojourn into electronica may just be a temporary diversion, rather than a new destination.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 12:07:17 GMT
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Sept 26, 2020 12:14:31 GMT
we all can't microsoft paint
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Sept 26, 2020 13:00:03 GMT
The knowledge base is constricting. Context for many things is getting lost. There is only so much to say about anything, and that can kill enthusiasm. Whilst at the same time someone's enthusiasm can make one reconsider a band, artist, etc., Listen long enough and open enough artists once not interesting will line up, whilst others never never will. I have found am more interested in playing music, making music, than listening, but it is different now. Acoustic in fact, with a certain RnR sensibility, as one with a cache of flight cases, amps, and effects, from a different life, we need some beauty. Acoustic doesn't allow for the fudging that electricity can allow. Moving forward music is renewing its root genres whilst also enabling/welcoming more and more cross-pollination. There is exciting stuff percolating below. I think I know what you mean wrt to your creative side. I’m sort of doing the opposite in terms of electricity. I’m teaching myself ‘synthesis’ and ‘electronics’, in contrast to 30-odd years of guitar obsession. It’s healthy, and I’m listening to a lot of new (to me) music as a result, which is exciting. However, the pull of the big hair, the monstrous guitar tones, and double-kick drums is often too much. I think perhaps my sojourn into electronica may just be a temporary diversion, rather than a new destination. Who do you rate? Beach, Vai, Bratta, DeMartini, Lesperance, Gilbert, Satch, (greg)Howe, etc., ? I have been working with arranging and orchestrating mandolin (F and A), 6 and 12 string, classical and flamenco, acoustic/electric bass, electric 6 string through a simple geramanium fuzz for coloration rather than lead, lots of voice, lots of drumless percussion( tabla, djembe, bells, vibes, etc.,)
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Post by fonz on Sept 26, 2020 15:10:34 GMT
I think I know what you mean wrt to your creative side. I’m sort of doing the opposite in terms of electricity. I’m teaching myself ‘synthesis’ and ‘electronics’, in contrast to 30-odd years of guitar obsession. It’s healthy, and I’m listening to a lot of new (to me) music as a result, which is exciting. However, the pull of the big hair, the monstrous guitar tones, and double-kick drums is often too much. I think perhaps my sojourn into electronica may just be a temporary diversion, rather than a new destination. Who do you rate? Beach, Vai, Bratta, DeMartini, Lesperance, Gilbert, Satch, (greg)Howe, etc., ? I have been working with arranging and orchestrating mandolin (F and A), 6 and 12 string, classical and flamenco, acoustic/electric bass, electric 6 string through a simple geramanium fuzz for coloration rather than lead, lots of voice, lots of drumless percussion( tabla, djembe, bells, vibes, etc.,) Weirdly, I just had some Winger on! But, Vai is my number uno. Followed him for ages. Met him, and chatted for a while. Great bloke. Humble, and generous with his time. I have a Floral JEM, which is a wonderful guitar. PAF Pros and a great neck. Not too slim. I did have a DNA JEM, from new, but sold it a couple of years ago. I really rate Satriani, Holdsworth, Skolnick (used to play a 540), another wonderful guy, (Devin) Townsend, Li (I have an EGEN 18-insane guitar!), di Meola, Petrucci. The list goes on... I get the appeal of the acoustic though. Portable. Self-contained. It pretty much wills you to sing along, which an electric doesn't lend itself to.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Sept 26, 2020 16:00:13 GMT
Who do you rate? Beach, Vai, Bratta, DeMartini, Lesperance, Gilbert, Satch, (greg)Howe, etc., ? I have been working with arranging and orchestrating mandolin (F and A), 6 and 12 string, classical and flamenco, acoustic/electric bass, electric 6 string through a simple geramanium fuzz for coloration rather than lead, lots of voice, lots of drumless percussion( tabla, djembe, bells, vibes, etc.,) Weirdly, I just had some Winger on! But, Vai is my number uno. Followed him for ages. Met him, and chatted for a while. Great bloke. Humble, and generous with his time. I have a Floral JEM, which is a wonderful guitar. PAF Pros and a great neck. Not too slim. I did have a DNA JEM, from new, but sold it a couple of years ago. I really rate Satriani, Holdsworth, Skolnick (used to play a 540), another wonderful guy, (Devin) Townsend, Li (I have an EGEN 18-insane guitar!), di Meola, Petrucci. The list goes on... I get the appeal of the acoustic though. Portable. Self-contained. It pretty much wills you to sing along, which an electric doesn't lend itself to. I have friends that make the regular pilgrimage to the Vai Academy at the Mansion: Satch, Devin, etc., Up until the mid-90s one could go the Ibanez factory round here and scavenge a decent guitar out of the dumpsters until they started destroying them, a real waste, same with PRS in Annapolis. (Funny thing with Ibanez was most of the factory workers were there because they were musicians who were fans of the instruments and the artists who played them. But the management were made up of mostly arty goth anglophiles.)
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Post by harrispilton on Sept 26, 2020 21:48:03 GMT
I was your classic ‘indie kid’ By 1992 I had everything that the Melody Maker & NME had given an 8 out of ten or above in the previous 5/6 years. But there was always something bugging me that 3/4 of the music I was buying was probably absolute shite. And then I had my road to Damascus moment. After 9 months of hype I bought the first Oasis album day of release.Took it home, listened to it, literally couldn’t beleive how bad it was. From that day on I swore I would I would never by another inkies guitar record hype job. In the last 28 years I’ve almost stuck to it, bar ‘Grand Prix’ Teenage Fanclub (loved it’) ‘Barafundle’ Gorky’s (brilliant) and two Radiohead & a Verve album (all shit) I’ve come to realise that I was being exploited by the weeklies far more(or at least equally) than any Teeny pop Smash Hits reader. It’s interesting that since the demise of the weeklies, there has barely been a guitar band of any significance. Name one since the Arctics or Strokes? It was all a f*cking sham. Turns out that guitar music in the last thirty years has always been utter shite. Without the weeklies to peddle it to the Home Counties set, the kids simply don’t care. That’s what I’ve learnt.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Sept 26, 2020 21:56:14 GMT
Blimey
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