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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 23:10:55 GMT
Crikey. Black midi , Fontaine's D.C ,the War on drugs Idles and all them witches spring to mind in the last couple of years. I could probably name few more but the whisky is kicking in.
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Post by harrispilton on Sept 26, 2020 23:13:40 GMT
Crikey. Black midi , Fontaine's D.C ,the War on drugs Idles and all them witches spring to mind in the last couple of years. I could probably name few more but the whisky is kicking in. I dunno,they seem awful to my ears. Idles particularly seem horrific. Some sort of terrible panto-punk. I like a lot of the bands they stem from like Big Black, Jesus Lizard, but they just seem awful.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 23:41:34 GMT
Really, I only use this board to find new stuff and for a sort of brief reprieve from the daily grind on the laptop. I tend to only write at length on the net now if something's particularly caught my mind. It has had an impact on me though, I'm listening to soul, rnb etc a bit more than I used to.
I find discussing music at a direct level particularly difficult. The appeal of music for me is that it bypasses reason and goes straight to the senses. How do I assess how notes or melodies rush a feeling of something nostalgic, tender or fearsome? Even if I could, that kind of writing is not always necessarily interesting or relatable to the reader.
The other option is to become a sort of amateur historian of the sounds, the scenes and releases. Which interests me as far as it can take me, and a fair proportion of the stuff discussed here is out of my knowledge base.
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Post by tory on Sept 27, 2020 8:26:24 GMT
I was your classic ‘indie kid’ By 1992 I had everything that the Melody Maker & NME had given an 8 out of ten or above in the previous 5/6 years. But there was always something bugging me that 3/4 of the music I was buying was probably absolute shite. And then I had my road to Damascus moment. After 9 months of hype I bought the first Oasis album day of release.Took it home, listened to it, literally couldn’t beleive how bad it was. From that day on I swore I would I would never by another inkies guitar record hype job. In the last 28 years I’ve almost stuck to it, bar ‘Grand Prix’ Teenage Fanclub (loved it’) ‘Barafundle’ Gorky’s (brilliant) and two Radiohead & a Verve album (all shit) I’ve come to realise that I was being exploited by the weeklies far more(or at least equally) than any Teeny pop Smash Hits reader. It’s interesting that since the demise of the weeklies, there has barely been a guitar band of any significance. Name one since the Arctics or Strokes? It was all a f*cking sham. Turns out that guitar music in the last thirty years has always been utter shite. Without the weeklies to peddle it to the Home Counties set, the kids simply don’t care. That’s what I’ve learnt. Some truth in that I reckon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 9:26:52 GMT
I was your classic ‘indie kid’ By 1992 I had everything that the Melody Maker & NME had given an 8 out of ten or above in the previous 5/6 years. But there was always something bugging me that 3/4 of the music I was buying was probably absolute shite. And then I had my road to Damascus moment. After 9 months of hype I bought the first Oasis album day of release.Took it home, listened to it, literally couldn’t beleive how bad it was. From that day on I swore I would I would never by another inkies guitar record hype job. In the last 28 years I’ve almost stuck to it, bar ‘Grand Prix’ Teenage Fanclub (loved it’) ‘Barafundle’ Gorky’s (brilliant) and two Radiohead & a Verve album (all shit) I’ve come to realise that I was being exploited by the weeklies far more(or at least equally) than any Teeny pop Smash Hits reader. It’s interesting that since the demise of the weeklies, there has barely been a guitar band of any significance. Name one since the Arctics or Strokes? It was all a f*cking sham. Turns out that guitar music in the last thirty years has always been utter shite. Without the weeklies to peddle it to the Home Counties set, the kids simply don’t care. That’s what I’ve learnt. Some truth in that I reckon. I think so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 10:23:37 GMT
There isn't that much truth in that statement really. Looking back at the last ten pages the board is rarely talking about anything post mid eighties. It isn't that guitar or modern music in general sucks. It is that few of you are listening to it.
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Post by harrispilton on Sept 27, 2020 10:54:21 GMT
There isn't that much truth in that statement really. Looking back at the last ten pages the board is rarely talking about anything post mid eighties. It isn't that guitar or modern music in general sucks. It is that few of you are listening to it. Ultimately it’s subjective, I get that. I’ve always found it interesting that guitar music has almost disappeared from the charts in the last 10 years, you don’t get those bands like Oasis,Verve,Stone Roses,Embrace,Travis Etc.that just seemed to sweep all before them.At the time I was mystified by success of all those bands (bar The Roses debut) Upon reflection it feels like those bands would have got nowhere without the weeklies hyping them to death (again bar Stone Roses) There’s probably another conversation to be had about the death of the ‘huge guitar band’. In terms of quality, I’ve listened to all the bands you’ve mentioned, again it just sounds awful to my ears, a kind of law of diminishing returns. My mates seem to love Idles, but their all early fifties, and it feels like their loving them for what they arent, it’s a band that reminds them of their youth that ISN’T Cardi B or Drill or Hip Hop, it’s real music. It all feels a bit Brexit. A sort of comfort music.Sticking with something you feel safe with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 11:24:21 GMT
Interesting that you didn't know what sucked thirty years ago but do now . It is of course subjective but the charts stopped being of any interest to me a long time ago.As for the weeklies . Well, there demise started twenty plus years ago only to be filled in by the keepers of the canon monthlies. The same age set (this board basically) bought mojo and uncut etc. I think if you are on mailing lists from the likes of rough trade or have an account with a record store (Resident in Brighton are cool) then the new releases/bands you are notified about can be heard via Spotify. It might surprise you how vibrant and varied things are today. The endless box sets and classic multi-,coloured reissues are testament to a whole generation of music fans not moving on.
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Post by harrispilton on Sept 27, 2020 11:38:16 GMT
Yes, that was my whole point. I didn’t know what sucked thirty years ago,but do now. The original question posed was ‘What have you learnt after a life of collecting & talking about music?’ To me upon reflection I’ve realised I was marketed to just as cynically as those pop kids I used to sneer at for not liking ‘real music’, and now I see a lot of my peers doing the same thing still . Whenever an Idles post appears on Facebook the comments section always pretty much reads the same. ‘At last some real music’ ‘At last some lyrics that mean something’ ‘Poet of a generation’. ‘Can you imagine if this lot were on X factor?’ In a way I’m quite jealous of them. They seem to still be enjoying music, that leaves me a bit befuddled. Growing up I was obsessed by Husker Du, they were my life. Bob Moulds realeased a new album this week. It’s alright,could easily be a top three Sugar album,...but I can’t see they point..it’s just a middling Husker/Sugar/Mould, I can’t bring myself to listen to it.
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Post by npht on Sept 28, 2020 21:28:04 GMT
One thing I learned is my musical tastes has really changed over the past 30 years. The prior 20 to that I was much more about hating so much, now I tend to like too much.
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