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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 20, 2020 13:23:27 GMT
tell us about your favourite french and italian films.
which country has made the better ones?
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Oct 20, 2020 14:03:14 GMT
I didn't know that Marvel and DC had French and Italian franchises.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 15:58:08 GMT
I guess because both countries had such a major impact on post war cinema, film history tends to view each in quite distinct ways with the details of each country ( Nouvelle Vague, Neo Realism etc.) emphasised. But it strikes me both cinemas were quite similar. Both were rebelling against a conservative tradition within their own cinema ( the escapist "white telephone" films in the case of Italy, the studio bound literary "cinema du papa" in the case of the French), both were looking for a new language, both came, primarily, from the political left, both bought into auteur theory in a big way. As such I now tend to think of them of a piece and essentially part of the same cultural movement.
I can't really choose between them. Jean Pierre Melville is the director I'd take to my desert island, but I have a lot of time for De Sica and Visconti too.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 20, 2020 16:44:51 GMT
can you list some of your favourite films, G, especially by melville?
as an aside, i remember watching a french film on BBC2 back in the day, probably from the mid-70s to early 80s which centred around a teenager who loses his virginity to a prostitute. a sort of rite of passage story. i wish i could remember what it was called.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Oct 20, 2020 18:19:14 GMT
I would say Italy.
Fave films? Juliet of the Spirits, The Conformist, Bicycle Thieves, Suspiria, The Leopard, The Passenger...
There just seems to be more that resonates although there are similarities like G says. Maybe there's a visual flair with Italy, a certain lushness, I dunno. Italian horror is very Italian and therefore beats French.
France? Mon Oncle, 400 Blows, A Prophet, Belle de jour
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Oct 20, 2020 18:24:41 GMT
I'd give it to the French. Tati, Godard, Truffaut, Malle, Renoir, Rohmer have all made films that have affected me greatly.
The Italian list of directors might be a bit shorter - Fellini and Antonioni are the only two I've seen anything by (still to see The Bicycle Thieves).
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Post by bungo the mungo on Oct 20, 2020 18:48:45 GMT
i love 'blow up' but 'l'avventura' is one of the most boring films i've ever seen.
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Post by rayge on Oct 21, 2020 10:29:01 GMT
Sweden.
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Post by jeffk on Oct 31, 2020 22:58:19 GMT
I'll probably give it to the French but Italian cinema was always a joy. I need to think more about this one.
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Post by jeffk on Oct 31, 2020 22:59:33 GMT
i love 'blow up' but 'l'avventura' is one of the most boring films i've ever seen. Have you seen La Notte, the second of the trilogy. It's one of my favorite films. |
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