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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 21, 2020 17:14:41 GMT
I watched Cowboys and Aliens this weekend, again, and I was kinda surprised it got pretty shitty reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I love it. I also feel the same about Sam Raimi's The Quick and the Dead. I really like it. Yes, it has problems in pacing, but overall I think it's great.
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Post by Sneelock on Dec 21, 2020 17:28:29 GMT
I haven't seen C&A but I'll chime in anyway. Notice how the poster art gives no indication of the movie's period? I think marketing gets a lot of blame for how these things land in the pool of public opinion sometimes.
I think Hackman got very good notices for Q&tD. Some people liked Stone and some found her miscast. I liked it myself. I thought Dicaprio seemed a little green at the time. I always liked Sharon Stone - I think she's smart to do things like this once in a while. Hackman can give good bad guy in his sleep.
another Raimi movie I thought was undervalued was "A Simple Plan" which turned out to be one of Bill Paxton's meatier roles. the set up is pretty much "no country for old men" but an entirely different approach. here's some good advice - don't fuck with other people's money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 17:45:21 GMT
I pay more attention to the audience average score than to the critics score on Rotten Tomatoes these days. It's much more likely to give you an accurate indication of whether the film is worth watching. Critics today are more unreliable than they've ever been because there is a real sheep-like adherance to a critical consensus, especially if it's an arty film by a respected director. They don't want to be the one to step out of line and get it wrong. Audiences are more likely to be honest.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 21, 2020 19:15:49 GMT
I pay more attention to the audience average score than to the critics score on Rotten Tomatoes these days. It's much more likely to give you an accurate indication of whether the film is worth watching. Critics today are more unreliable than they've ever been because there is a real sheep-like adherance to a critical consensus, especially if it's an arty film by a respected director. They don't want to be the one to step out of line and get it wrong. Audiences are more likely to be honest. Agreed. Cowboys and Aliens got a 44% critics score and 43% audience.
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Post by DarknessFish on Dec 23, 2020 13:26:29 GMT
Passenger 57 is stupid in a way that the Die Hard 2s and Con Airs of this world should aspire to. One of those films that you flick over to, and can't stop watching despite everything about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 15:27:52 GMT
Cowboys & Aliens had isues, but wasn't the train wreck it is portrayed as in reviews..
And will here no abuse of The Quick & the Dead..That movie is awesome and there is nothing wrong with the pacing..
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Post by Sneelock on Dec 23, 2020 19:24:37 GMT
I can't be objective about "Passenger 57". I hated it just because I was asked for it literally hundreds of times when it was new on video. I like Snipes but I liked him better before he had to do karate or some shit in all his movies. I was going to pick "Rise of the Guardians" - the Dreamworks movie that nobody seems to remember but it actually seems pretty well regarded on "Rotten Tomatoes". I guess it was considered a dud. it did ok at the box office but word of mouth was meh and they spent so much money promoting it that I think people were sick of hearing about it even before it came out. this may account for the memory hole it seems to have fallen into now. so, I'll pick it anyway. the last I remember hearing about it was when "guardians of the galaxy" was new and some people who paid to see that were shown THIS by mistake. I like it enough that it's frustrating it's best know for not being something else. it's a little too dark for younger kids and a little too wholesome for older kids but it's just about right for me. I think the character design is very clever and draws on different art styles. It's a little by the book and it does sometimes have that "puppet show" quality that some CGI movies have but I think the overall style takes this occasional stiffness into account. I'm the guy that loves seeing movies in 3-D and I've got to say that every Dreamworks CGI movie that's released in 3-D is worth my money to see in the theatre even if it's a dud. this one throws birds or snowflakes or something in my face almost constantly. I see that as a plus.
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Post by jeffk on Dec 23, 2020 21:38:49 GMT
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Post by Sneelock on Dec 23, 2020 21:50:48 GMT
Chuck rarely jumps in his truck to go kick Russkie butt anymore. America has changed.
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Post by jeffk on Dec 23, 2020 21:56:49 GMT
Chuck rarely jumps is his truck to go kick Russkie butt anymore. America has changed.He was supposed to be cast in American Ninja but turned the film down when he found out his face would be covered too much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 23:54:10 GMT
I've been wanting to see this ever sice I heard Adam and Joe talk about it. They really sold it to me!
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Post by Sneelock on Dec 24, 2020 0:10:52 GMT
IMO it's the quintessential CANNON movie. still, I think a good 10 minutes worth of Chuck Norris Jokes is more fun in the long run.
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Post by Charlie O. on Dec 24, 2020 0:29:00 GMT
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Post by sloopjohnc on Dec 24, 2020 22:18:55 GMT
Love it.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Dec 26, 2020 4:30:31 GMT
A good friend of our Davey once went to great lengths to convince us that "Joe Vs. the Volcano" was not only not a bad movie, but was in reality actually a great one. Then he held a showing and held us captive while we watched (OK, not literally - but he was pretty adamant about us watching).
I don't think either of us were totally convinced, but he did make a good case. There are certainly higher-rated movies - and probably even higher-rated Tom Hanks movies - that I like less.
I've also heard from many reasonably intelligent people that "Ishtar" is quite enjoyable if you ignore how much money was wasted in the making of it. I've never seen it so I can't vouch for the legitimacy of that particular argument.
I at least mildly enjoyed "Joe Vs. the Volcano," though. It certainly wasn't awful, and at one point, at least, was regarded as the nadir of Hanks' career.
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