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Post by fange on Feb 18, 2021 9:59:53 GMT
Maybe i should have said plenty of comments rather than banter, though there is a bit of the latter too.
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Post by osgood on Feb 18, 2021 10:28:54 GMT
I try not to read the comments before and during listening, but I read them before commenting/voting. And I keep on reading the comments of every match even after I have voted. Comments are the salt and pepper of this thing (unfortunately quite often they are more interesting than the music they're about)
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Post by bungo the mungo on Feb 18, 2021 10:41:33 GMT
while it happens every year, i DO get a bit browned off with posters who vote for a selection on the grounds that it needs the votes or because it's losing the tie. this seems to go against the spirit of the cup and while these votes rarely influence the outcome, they do change the points difference in the table, which could come into play at the end of the group stage.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 18, 2021 10:45:36 GMT
The ONLY valid reason for not voting for something is that you don't like it.
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Post by rayge on Feb 18, 2021 10:53:00 GMT
The ONLY valid reason for not voting for something is that you don't like it. Fascist.
The ONLY reason I do this is to try to promote a tie because I don't think either is significantly better.
With rare exceptions, most of my votes are entirely abitrary anyway. It's just a chance for me to munter on abbout nothing in particular, as usual.
I know some people take the competition more seriously, but really, that's their problem
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Post by fange on Feb 18, 2021 11:37:16 GMT
The ONLY valid reason for not voting for something is that you don't like it. Oh, is that the ONLY reason for you, JC? Not that it's a lazy choice perhaps? Sopwith Camel were one of the early SF bands, the vid says 1973 but this sounds much earlier. It's a ghostly, sweet thing with the right amount of restraint. Right place, right time, and this could BLOWE MY MINDEAnyway I'm going for it because I like it, and it needs the vote - the Betty Wright song is of course fine but one fuck of a lazy choiceThis is the Cup way - people will vote any old way for any old reason they want. Pick something you like and pray is the only logical thing to do.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 18, 2021 11:56:47 GMT
That was very much a ‘by the way’ comment. It always comes down to preferences. For me, anyway
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 12:04:21 GMT
The ONLY valid reason for not voting for something is that you don't like it. But what happens if you dislike both or like both, then you have to find some other criteria for making your decison.
I do feel that negativity towards a selection by any artist that is reasonably well known is getting a little too overplayed, although it's not for me to tell people how they should be voting. However, I must admit I do feel that had my Isley Brothers selection been by an obscure soul group it would probably have picked up two or three more votes than it did. All food for thought when I make my selections for the next one!
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 18, 2021 12:05:46 GMT
The ONLY valid reason for not voting for something is that you don't like it. But what happens if you dislike both or like both, then you have to find some other criteria for making your decison.
I do feel that negativity towards a selection by any artist that is reasonably well known is getting a little too overplayed 'getting'?!? it's been like that for years! this is why we get nothing but obscurities
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Post by osgood on Feb 18, 2021 12:20:47 GMT
while it happens every year, i DO get a bit browned off with posters who vote for a selection on the grounds that it needs the votes or because it's losing the tie. this seems to go against the spirit of the cup and while these votes rarely influence the outcome, they do change the points difference in the table, which could come into play at the end of the group stage. But this normally happens in situations where you like both picks similarly, even if I might sometimes vote for something I like slightly less (if this could be quantified). I understand your argument about points difference, although I don't share your intensely competitive approach to this thing, but in some way this kind of voting can partially compensate for the 'unfairness' of some ties.
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Post by osgood on Feb 18, 2021 12:26:11 GMT
But what happens if you dislike both or like both, then you have to find some other criteria for making your decison.
I do feel that negativity towards a selection by any artist that is reasonably well known is getting a little too overplayed 'getting'?!? it's been like that for years! this is why we get nothing but obscurities This could be an idea for a cup. Only extremely well known tracks, e.g. Stairway to Heaven vs Layla, or Johnny B. Goode vs Anarchy in the UK. Does this sound remotely interesting?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 12:26:56 GMT
There's a fair bit of luck involved anyway. How well you do in any given year is 70% down to your selections and 30% down to other factors outside your control, the most important being the draw. That's why you can win with weak selections and lose with strong ones.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 18, 2021 12:27:57 GMT
It does to me, because I think there are almost limitless ways we can talk about a piece of music. And that's before we even take into account different opinions on it.
But I doubt there'd be the appetite for it here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 12:30:41 GMT
'getting'?!? it's been like that for years! this is why we get nothing but obscurities This could be an idea for a cup. Only extremely well known tracks, e.g. Stairway to Heaven vs Layla, or Johnny B. Goode vs Anarchy in the UK. Does this sound remotely interesting? The problem would be deciding what is 'well known'.
Personally I like to hear obscure things that I haven't heard a million times before. The only rule I make for myself is to try and listen to whatever it is with an open mind and not give in too much to a predetermined opinion.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 18, 2021 12:34:11 GMT
'getting'?!? it's been like that for years! this is why we get nothing but obscurities This could be an idea for a cup. Only extremely well known tracks, e.g. Stairway to Heaven vs Layla, or Johnny B. Goode vs Anarchy in the UK. Does this sound remotely interesting?
I don't know if that sort of thing is worth setting up a competition over, but threads like that pop up once in a while in the general forum, and usually promote quite a bit of discussion.
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