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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 15:03:53 GMT
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Frances Carroll & Her Coquettes feat. Viola Smith – Snake Charmer
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Dion - Kickin' Child
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jan 24, 2021 15:26:34 GMT
Dion is an interesting character in pop music. He's been around from the start and he's changed his sound many times during the years. The one thing that holds true is his voice. It's very malleable and his recent albums are quite good.
B
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 24, 2021 19:34:23 GMT
That Dion song is top dollar! Best new thing I've heard so far this cup, I'd say, more Stones than Gene Pitney (which is what I'd expected).
A's interesting but really completely at odds with the musical tone of the competition. I mean, not that there are any RULES or anything, but....bit like taking a stone to a knife fight.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Jan 24, 2021 20:10:24 GMT
i love dion during that period. this track has a strong dylan influence.
not sure what whoever chose A is playing at, but they've effectively given their opponent a bye.
B
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Post by T. Willy Rye on Jan 24, 2021 22:05:38 GMT
I like Dion does Dylan. B
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 22:13:21 GMT
I feel moved to defend A. I don't know how good it is in the context of the swing era, apparently all female bands were not as unusual as I'd have assumed, however it has pep and is a lot of fun. That solo is quite out there, a bit Albert Ayler or something!! The Dion track seems quite a brazen attempt to capitalise on the rising star of Bob Dylan. As an imitation, it's well done (as you might expect given it was produced by Tom Wilson), but what's the point? I don't know if A is better, but it's more interesting for me.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Jan 25, 2021 4:57:00 GMT
I also feel compelled to defend A, which is a lot of fun, and...there kind of do seem to be some unwritten rules - like, for example, Bop and post-pop is the only music that existed before 1960. It ain't right.
That said, I'm such a Dion fan, and that's such a good, lesser-known pick that...suffice to say I wish I could vote for both. But I can't, so it has to be B.
Bad luck, A - you did a brave thing.
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Post by osgood on Jan 25, 2021 11:44:09 GMT
At the beginning of A I was expecting to see Tony Curtis on sax and Jack Lemmon on double bass, but apparently it was not the case. Anyway, visually interesting, musically not so much.
Lucky tie for B, but anyway it was a nice pick. Yep, 'nice' is the best I can say about it.
B
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Post by rayge on Jan 25, 2021 12:36:29 GMT
A I tend to think that Cups should be about studio recordings, not live performances, but that's the only major gripe I have with this. Kind of a novelty track, I suppose, with a solo on a snake-charmer's pipe, but they swing just fine, and Miss Smith, while no Chick Webb or Gene Krupa, brings the thunder with her space-age style kit and heavy mallets (correct musical terms for instruments beyond me) 5/10
B While pleased for him personally that he managed to kick a 15-year junk habit and replace it with Xianity, I think the earnestness that came with the conversion effectively sank him as worth listening to. I tried with Abraham Martin and John, and the Born to Be With You Album, but no go. This is from his from his mid-60s transition period when he was casting around looking for someone else to be, but his voice, sufficient for doo-wop (where the Belmonts gave him a more musical underpinning) and rockers, is too limited to make up for a rather dull Dylan pastiche, while the band are a pale shadow of those on BIABH. Noble experiment, but a failure. 3.5 /10
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Post by fearlessfreap on Jan 25, 2021 13:46:14 GMT
B
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Post by fonz on Jan 25, 2021 13:57:27 GMT
I'm kind of with Rayge on this.
Dion (and the Belmonts) was pretty much the epicentre of my musical genesis. My dad bought me a Showaddywaddy record (I think he hoped that I'd look beyond the obvious) but pointed me in the direction of his old rock n roll and doo-wop stuff. I probably ruined half his records with my fumbling fingers and a dodgy stylus. That said, I parked my love of all things doo-wop at some point in the late seventies. I'm know nothing else about the dude, save for the drug thing etc This track is ok, but it can't contend with a roomful of hot chicks in old-fashioned dresses, doing their thing.
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Post by nolamike on Jan 25, 2021 16:10:31 GMT
I really like the Dion track - always have. But I gotta give it to A. It started off a bit slow, but then from the moment Viola Smith was introduced, I was hooked. What a fun, wild track! And a great, offbeat selection for the cup.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jan 25, 2021 16:40:23 GMT
Credit where it's due: A is the first tune in this competition that has made me laugh out loud. That ropey "snake charmer" solo is a gas!
B's pretty good as a Dylan-esque pastiche, and I dig the backing track that kinda sounds like CCR's "Susie Q".
Tough choice...
I think A just for its goofiness.
A
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 16:41:58 GMT
Middle of the road Dylan impression v. pretty fantastic drumming display..Going with Viola Smith (Who died recently at 107 years old and was still playing with local bands in Costa Mesa up until the last couple of years) Vote A
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Post by Sneelock on Jan 25, 2021 18:12:10 GMT
A is great but without the visual it becomes good not great. the Dion ain't great either but it's all in the track because you're looking at the back of Dion's head.
an impulsive yet decisive B
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