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Post by rayge on Jan 27, 2021 11:19:44 GMT
As for the label, well it was never as collectable for me as Factory, Postcard or Fast, because there were various earnest politico types, like the ones G mentioned and Scritti Politti, making scratchy records that I tried to like, but of the ten featured, the only singles I did not buy were those by Swell Maps and the Feelies (had them on albums) and the Pop Group (wankers). I followed Vic Godard, Spizz, the Monochrome Set, The Raincoats, the Delta V and Dan Treacy through most of their careers, but not so much the Cabs, mainly because my mate Ed, who lived at the north end of Ladbroke Grove and was a fixture in the shop as much as I was, really loved them, so I heard everything by them and got it on tape. And SLF I grew tired of very quickly: one trick ponies, and that trick was being a more po-faced version of the Clash, not a great look (or listen). With the caveat that it isn't a vote on the artists, who I would rank differently, the best three singles there are Ambition c/w a Different story, Fairytale in the Supermarket c/w In Love & Adventures Close to Home, and the Bill Grundy EP (four good tracks rather than one great one).
All dissenting opinions are incorrect.
So there.
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Post by wobblie on Jan 27, 2021 11:27:09 GMT
Fairytale in the Supermarket Mind Your Own business Where's Capt. Kirk?
Nag Nag Nag is unavailable here so I guess I'll look that one up later.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 27, 2021 12:17:09 GMT
If you need any more convincing that they were a truly great label (and I get the 'hippy' criticisms even tho' most of the bands quite obviously were not that way at all), they also put out single releases by Robert Wyatt, The Slits, Pere Ubu, The Fall, Red Crayola, Young Marble Giants, Blue Orchids, Subway Sect, The Nightingales, Wire, Virgin Prunes, Scritti Politti, The Go-Betweens, Aztec Camera, The Pastels, Microdisney and The Smiths. And this only takes us up to 1984.
Who else had such a diverse roster?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 12:20:38 GMT
He does have a point.
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Post by clive gash on Jan 27, 2021 12:22:59 GMT
Swell Maps, Subway Sect, Pop Group in that order.
If Scritti were on the list they’d get my vote too.
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Post by rayge on Jan 27, 2021 12:29:45 GMT
If you need any more convincing that they were a truly great label (and I get the 'hippy' criticisms even tho' most of the bands quite obviously were not that way at all), they also put out single releases by Robert Wyatt, The Slits, Pere Ubu, The Fall, Red Crayola, Young Marble Giants, Blue Orchids, Subway Sect, The Nightingales, Wire, Virgin Prunes, Scritti Politti, The Go-Betweens, Aztec Camera, The Pastels, Microdisney and The Smiths. And this only takes us up to 1984. Who else had such a diverse roster? Factory are the only ones in with a shout from the independent sector, but I think you are probably right for the time (Later on, Shimmy Disc featured nothing but eclectic loonies, all wildly different from one antoher, even though many of the bands shared personnel). One difference between Factory and RT was that the former tended to debut bands, while the latter thrived by signing up bands that had already caused a stir with one or two independent releases. And, of course, RT licensed tracks from the USA, while Factory rarely travelled outside the north-west, apart from their arrangement with Disques du Crepuscule
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Post by rayge on Jan 27, 2021 12:30:30 GMT
Swell Maps, Subway Sect, Pop Group in that order. If Scritti were on the list they’d get my vote too. Even that Skank Bloc Bologna stuff?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 12:33:06 GMT
And of course RT never had a unified design/look in the way Factory did. You can say, correctly, 'that's not to do with music', but it did shape how attracted you were to the labels in thefirst place.
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Post by oh oooh on Jan 27, 2021 12:43:05 GMT
Yes, of course.
Although wasn't their own logo the same all along?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 13:35:47 GMT
Swell Maps, Subway Sect, Pop Group in that order. If Scritti were on the list they’d get my vote too. Even that Skank Bloc Bologna stuff? They were fucking awful. Them and the sprout.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2021 14:06:36 GMT
I struggled with the early, difficult post-punk stuff. The "Songs to Remember" period was wonderful, pop sensibility mixed with clever songwriting. The subsequent 'glossy pop' period started well with 'Wood Beez' but just got too sickly and over-produced for me.
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Post by clive gash on Jan 27, 2021 14:29:55 GMT
Swell Maps, Subway Sect, Pop Group in that order. If Scritti were on the list they’d get my vote too. Even that Skank Bloc Bologna stuff? Magnificent!
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 6, 2021 22:02:13 GMT
Swell Maps apparently REFORMING and TOURING soon
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 6, 2021 22:38:57 GMT
Fairytale in the Supermarket is the best there, followed by He's Frank and Mind Your Own Business. exactly my choices. fuh-reeky!
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 7, 2021 0:48:42 GMT
"Fairytale", "Frank" and "Seymour".
Can't say I'm IN LOVE with any of them, though (despite liking that first Raincoats album - liking the Raincoats in general - a lot).
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