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Jun 8, 2021 13:51:43 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 13:51:43 GMT
Sardonicus is actually pretty much perfect in my book. It apparently sold well and yet it causes a vacant expression on the faces of many when mentioned. It has been one of my most treasured recordings. They made other records of course. No doubt this thread will explode with rumination and love.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jun 8, 2021 14:25:14 GMT
I love the first four, as great as anything any of their contemporaneous competitors put out.
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Jun 8, 2021 15:11:31 GMT
Post by fearlessfreap on Jun 8, 2021 15:11:31 GMT
A chrome plated album. Randy California was 19 years old and had three albums behind him. When I was 19, I could play a few Ramones songs. If they hadn't turned down Woodstock and gotten into the movie, would this album have sold? Only the Mothers were in the same league as far as American bands of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 15:34:42 GMT
In the days when I used to give records a real go, I spent a long time trying to get into Sardonicus. None of the songs seemed memorable or even threatened to become memorable at some point in the future. After a few months I gave up. I've still no idea what's meant to be so good about it.
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 8, 2021 16:48:18 GMT
I think "Clear" is a little thin but I do like the first four. I like Sardonicus. I'm very fond of "family that plays together" but I think the debut is the one for me.
I like the way all the influences go together on that one - the Hammond and that big slippery guitar sound. for a band with a lot of influences it really does gell as a whole.
Sardonicus was a let down by the time I got around to it since I loved the first two for so long. I know this isn't a popular take. I'll agree that it's their most labored over and accomplished production-wise but I'll take the first two just by virtue of the songs. dynamite songs!
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Jun 8, 2021 17:34:57 GMT
Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 8, 2021 17:34:57 GMT
In the days when I used to give records a real go, I spent a long time trying to get into Sardonicus. None of the songs seemed memorable or even threatened to become memorable at some point in the future. After a few months I gave up. I've still no idea what's meant to be so good about it. Me neither. The debut's pretty good THO. Snee's right about that.
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Jun 8, 2021 17:42:09 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 17:42:09 GMT
Yeah, I remember we had a long discussion on it on BCB once and a few said I'd probably prefer the earlier albums. Is Sardonicus the one for prog fans?
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Jun 8, 2021 17:52:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 17:52:23 GMT
In the days when I used to give records a real go, I spent a long time trying to get into Sardonicus. None of the songs seemed memorable or even threatened to become memorable at some point in the future. After a few months I gave up. I've still no idea what's meant to be so good about it. It's a wonderful album G. It has melodies and stuff. It is "alternative" . It is even poppy in parts.
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Jun 8, 2021 17:54:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 17:54:36 GMT
In the days when I used to give records a real go, I spent a long time trying to get into Sardonicus. None of the songs seemed memorable or even threatened to become memorable at some point in the future. After a few months I gave up. I've still no idea what's meant to be so good about it. It's a wonderful album G. It has melodies and stuff. It is "alternative" . It is even poppy in parts. Yeah so many people say, but there's no point in me trying again. If I didn't get it then, I won't get it now.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:01:12 GMT
Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jun 8, 2021 18:01:12 GMT
I like Dr. Sardonicus, but I also feel like you can trace a straight line between it and bands like Pearl Jam, which kind of wrecks it for me. That said, I'll give it a spin once a year and enjoy it.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:17:38 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 18:17:38 GMT
I like Dr. Sardonicus, but I also feel like you can trace a straight line between it and bands like Pearl Jam, which kind of wrecks it for me. That said, I'll give it a spin once a year and enjoy it. Um, no.
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Post by rayge on Jun 8, 2021 18:53:19 GMT
I can't write a lot now because reasons, but I was planning on doing a hagiography on Spirit, or at least Randy and Ed. At least three of the albums they released as Spirit after the other three left are on a par with, or better than the first four, while Spirit of ’76 and especially Future Games (A Magical Kahauna Dream) are stellar. The latter has been a top five album for me since release, and one of the very few albums I know of that is a whole, with all the tracks interwoven, motifs repeated in different songs (some of which are esentially just fragments, and so on. I always meant to write an unsynched listen on it.... If you have time/love Sardonicus/ are off your head on psychedelics, or possibly all three, treat yourself, although the CD version as featured here has breaks between the tracks that aren't there on the vinyl, where the only gap is between sides one and two. Randy is the true inheritor of his old mucker Hendrix's legacy, with a lovely guitar sound all his own and a really fine light voice in the Hendrix stylee, and of course Mr Cassidy is a wonderful, crazed drummer. I was particularly impressed when I saw them live in London in the 1970s that he manage to play a thunderous full-kit solo with his bare hands.
FG also claims one of my favourite couplets in the whole of music
'We're communicators with a cybernetic style/ We're too young to die, with our phasers set on smile'
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Jun 8, 2021 19:04:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 19:04:55 GMT
They were special Ray. It saddens me that they seem to be passed by.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:44:02 GMT
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 8, 2021 20:44:02 GMT
oh, it'll come around. I heard a Kaptain Kopter track on one of those Srius-XM Stations not too long ago.
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Sept 1, 2021 3:53:57 GMT
Post by quaco on Sept 1, 2021 3:53:57 GMT
Yeah, I remember we had a long discussion on it on BCB once and a few said I'd probably prefer the earlier albums. Is Sardonicus the one for prog fans? It's the one that turns the corner into the '70s production-wise, in the same way that Loaded, Sunflower, Low Spark, and Who's Next almost seem to be by different bands than they were previously. There are definitely some arena-rock moments, though you could say that's ahead of its time, coming out in 1970. It's highly creative, but I can see how you might not like some of the sounds. I bet you WOULD like some of the stuff on Clear, though. Try this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H6ufoFw5Qk
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