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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 29, 2021 12:54:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 13:05:13 GMT
Oh I don't think I'll bother. He was very accident prone wasn't he?
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Post by rayge on Jun 29, 2021 13:11:49 GMT
I'll be recording it for sure - it's Ken Burns after all. Didn't Snee already start a thread, or at least expatiate on this in another thread, when it was broadcast in the States.
As I may (not) have mentioned before, I'm a major fan of American lit, much more so than novels from anywhere else, but I never could get on with Hemingway's work - both his subject matter and his minimalist style were antithetical to my own – but what I'm hoping for, as with all other KB docos, are info and pictures relating to the circles he moved in, his friends, enemies and contemporaries, and some biographical background.
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Post by fonz on Jun 30, 2021 5:58:37 GMT
I’ve read most of his novels, and just ordered a book of short stories. I’d like to see this. I proposed to my wife in Havana, and made the decision to do that whilst eating lunch at the Hotel Ambos Mundos. I’m hoping it features in the doc. I likes a bit of nostalgia. The bullfighting stuff is fascinating. I’m wondering how that will be approached-it seems so anachronistic.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 30, 2021 6:16:48 GMT
They already talked a bit about it towards the end of the first one. It's well worth a watch, as you'd expect with a Ken Burns work, although for some reason they've broken it up into six episodes (it was originally aired in the US in three installments, probably was produced with that in mind too).
I enjoy his novels but find his short stories especially impressive - they really had an effect on me as a young adult. It wasn't so much the themes (I know some people are attracted to that - the war/military stuff, the drinking, the bullfighting) but the way he wrote. I still find it extraordinary.
Not to spoil it for anyone, but so far it looks like the warts-and-all approach is going to reveal a few things we either didn't know, or only knew bits about. He was no angel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 7:10:50 GMT
I'll probably watch it, even though I am much less enamoured of Burns than everyone else ( I find his approach rather stuffy, self important and clichéd). Would prefer it if wasn't so long!
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jun 30, 2021 7:22:01 GMT
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying about KB. Although at the very least you're guaranteed it's going to be thorough, well researched.
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Post by fonz on Jun 30, 2021 11:01:21 GMT
Who else does ‘long-form documentary’? In the USA, at least… KB is marketable, and has done stuff I’m interested in. We’re lucky in the UK- we have the BBC, and a fine tradition of arts docs, but I’m not sure about elsewhere. Sky arts has occasional good stuff, which I can access through NOW TV, but that’s about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 12:18:31 GMT
Who else does ‘long-form documentary’? In the USA, at least… KB is marketable, and has done stuff I’m interested in. We’re lucky in the UK- we have the BBC, and a fine tradition of arts docs, but I’m not sure about elsewhere. Sky arts has occasional good stuff, which I can access through NOW TV, but that’s about it. There are plenty of filmmakers capable of making long form documentaries.
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Post by fonz on Jun 30, 2021 21:54:56 GMT
Who else does ‘long-form documentary’? In the USA, at least… KB is marketable, and has done stuff I’m interested in. We’re lucky in the UK- we have the BBC, and a fine tradition of arts docs, but I’m not sure about elsewhere. Sky arts has occasional good stuff, which I can access through NOW TV, but that’s about it. There are plenty of filmmakers capable of making long form documentaries. I’m sure you’re correct. Examples? KB gets the budgets, is my point.
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Post by rayge on Jun 30, 2021 22:24:37 GMT
There are plenty of filmmakers capable of making long form documentaries. I’m sure you’re correct. Examples? KB gets the budgets, is my point. The French-originated Adventurers in Modern Art, a sixpart series that recently aired on Sky Arts, was very fine, I thought: imaginative use of animation and contemporary film, animation and photographs - often mashing them all together - with narration to tell the story of Bohemian Paris (and by extension Europe) from the Fin de Siècle to the end of WWII, an extraordinary soap opera full of vivid characters, not just the really famous, but the hangers-on and walk-on players too. A work of art in itself.
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Post by rayge on Jun 30, 2021 22:28:07 GMT
Oh, and I just watched the first two of the Beebs six eps of Hemingway (it's all on iPlayer): they failed to mention his affair with the American nurse Agnes when he was recovering from his war wounds in the hospital, yet kept referring back to it - grave editing faux pas. Apart from that, some great stuff about the swirl around him, but he is coming over as a major CUNT
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Post by Sneelock on Jun 30, 2021 23:38:02 GMT
yeah, that's pretty fair. pretty early on too. talent is an asset and our lad Ernie had it.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Jul 18, 2021 12:47:43 GMT
KEN BURNS, 67 I don't think that dye-job can be excused, really.
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Post by rayge on Jul 18, 2021 13:27:38 GMT
it's a syrup, is it not?
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