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Post by fange on Jul 20, 2021 11:41:12 GMT
Cream had moments of absolute brilliance - I Feel Free, Strange Brew, White Room, Sunshine of Your Love. I can almost give him a pass for so much of the rest of his career just for those songs.
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Post by osgood on Jul 20, 2021 12:26:03 GMT
I still have some time for his first solo and Layla albums too.
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Post by fange on Jul 20, 2021 12:36:18 GMT
I should listen to his Delaney and Bonnie record again, see how it sounds to me these days.
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 20, 2021 15:34:47 GMT
I like that stuff. where he loses me is when all his goddam solos started sounding like B.B. King. I love B.B. King but, you know, we already HAD one of those. I think his Cream stuff still sounds pretty goddam exciting. it was blues but he was really kicking it up a notch.
I don't blame him for wanting to mellow the fuck out especially since it seemed to be a goldmine for him. admittedly some of the songs he did are catchy & laid back. his vocals even became a little more distinctive.
I just think the fire in his belly went out somewhere along the way - to my ears anyway.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jul 20, 2021 16:19:22 GMT
Roger McGuinn: I also had the rare opportunity of jamming with Hendrix and Clapton in a loft in New York. We were at a club somewhere and Eric came over and said: “Hey, I’ve got a loft nearby. Do you guys wanna come over and jam? I’ve got amplifiers up there.” So the three of us went to Eric’s loft and it was wild. I remember we played all these old blues songs; not really whole songs but a lot of riffs and licks. There was healthy competition between Clapton and Hendrix.www.loudersound.com/features/the-byrds-roger-mcguinn-on-the-night-he-jammed-with-hendrix-and-clapton
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Post by Charlie O. on Jul 20, 2021 16:25:17 GMT
Roger McGuinn: I also had the rare opportunity of jamming with Hendrix and Clapton in a loft in New York. We were at a club somewhere and Eric came over and said: “Hey, I’ve got a loft nearby. Do you guys wanna come over and jam? I’ve got amplifiers up there.” So the three of us went to Eric’s loft and it was wild. I remember we played all these old blues songs; not really whole songs but a lot of riffs and licks. There was healthy competition between Clapton and Hendrix.www.loudersound.com/features/the-byrds-roger-mcguinn-on-the-night-he-jammed-with-hendrix-and-claptonKinda weird to think of McGuinn being in that context. I'd be surprised if he had more than two standard blues licks in his repertoire - I can't even imagine him as a half-decent blues rhythm guitarist. If it had just been him and Jimi, though, that could have been interesting.
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Post by peter on Jul 20, 2021 21:55:47 GMT
He attained Godhead around the time of Layla. Bluesbreaker Eric could not have played like that, soloing around major/minor pentatonic scales, fluid key changes - all sounding completely accomplished and seamless. I'm thinking of those guitar lines on Bell Bottom Blues, they're integral to the song structure. He'd mastered it.
That was the peak though, I think Layla-era Eric could easily have walked onstage in 1985 and carried off an Eric Clapton show, there was no progression. Maybe even a regression.
By the way, the John Mayall tribute concert was on Sky Arts a few months ago. Clapton comes on stage with his bland looking Versace Stratocaster! I couldn't believe it. Surely it was the moment to put comforts aside and play a Les Paul for old times sake. How boring.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jul 20, 2021 21:59:15 GMT
He attained Godhead around the time of Layla. Bluesbreaker Eric could not have played like that, soloing around major/minor pentatonic scales, fluid key changes - all sounding completely accomplished and seamless. I'm thinking of those guitar lines on Bell Bottom Blues, they're integral to the song structure. He'd mastered it. Nice observation, I'll credit Duane's arrival for Eric's rising to the occasion.
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Post by rayge on Jul 22, 2021 12:15:17 GMT
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Post by osgood on Jul 22, 2021 13:14:02 GMT
Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain (Schiller)
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 22, 2021 16:07:01 GMT
Things I need to do today. drop off some dry cleaning. pick up some bread & milk at the market regale Eric Clapton with contempt & scorn
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 22, 2021 16:08:55 GMT
I don't know about you but I''m not sure how to take it when a well known former junkie says something shot into his arm made him sick.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2021 17:19:24 GMT
Don't want to derail this thread with a debate about vaccine passports but I am not comfortable with having to show my papers everywhere I go....it's not exactly something you should need to do in a free society is it......
Anyways the general consensus is that he's not the player he once was so why would I go and see him?
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Post by rayge on Jul 22, 2021 17:37:12 GMT
I saw him – well, Cream - on 10 February 1967 at a club in Manor House. The stage was only about a foot or so high and I was right near the front. The thing I remember most was his silly afro perm hairstyle. Good gig though, I had tinnitus for a few hours, remember feeling very high (this in pre-drug days) walking back down the Seven Sisters Road to stay at my mate Keith's house – or maybe Clive's place - in South Tottenham.
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Post by peter on Jul 22, 2021 20:50:48 GMT
the thing I remember most was his silly afro perm hairstyle. Its funny how you remember little insignificant things from gigs past. I do that too. Thats early Cream, were they jamming then or was it more of a song set?
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