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Post by bungo the mungo on Jul 21, 2021 10:14:39 GMT
good to find this on YouTube. the last part in particular is interesting. more punk than punk. i don't think there's ever been a more working class youth culture.
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Post by osgood on Jul 21, 2021 10:33:38 GMT
i don't think there's ever been a more working class youth culture. Is that the reason why I can't get a single word they say?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jul 21, 2021 10:48:54 GMT
They're oiks from London.
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Post by osgood on Jul 21, 2021 10:55:57 GMT
That's a new one for me. Good to have plenty of tools online.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jul 21, 2021 10:58:57 GMT
I quite liked the presenter's cynicism about the whole scene.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 12:19:52 GMT
I quite liked the presenter's cynicism about the whole scene. Janet Street Porter. She'd been around and had been an original mod ( you can spot her dancing in Blow Up). Yeah her narration is surprisingly spot on and perceptive. British mainstream tv didn't really get youth culture back then, but she was very much an exception.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jul 21, 2021 14:47:57 GMT
I was in England, Surrey to be exact, from June to August 1979, so I saw the whole mod and ska thing go down. The Specials went to #1 with Gangster and they were announcing the Quadrophenia release in tandem with the growing mod movement. I saw the Who at Wembley, in August I believe, and you could see all the kids going mod in front of the stadium.
As a California kid, it was strange. Youth culture and dress was more along ethnic lines where I grew up. You had the Hispanic cholo culture and being the late '70s, you still had weak echoes of the black power movement. And in the Bay Area, where the Panthers started, that was pretty strong.
I had started going to the Mabuhay Gardens to see punk shows a year or so earlier, but punk fashion only leaked to the suburbs I lived in by outsiders who wanted to be identified as outsiders - masochists who didn't mind the abuse. In fact, they kinda thrived on it.
In the US, it used to be kinda risky to step outside the status quo. I don't think that's as prevalent anymore, but because of that attitude, it was definitely interesitng seeing kids glom onto fashion and music trends so quickly. I kinda admired it and felt like all their likes must be really superficial if they can switch gears so quickly.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Jul 21, 2021 15:32:57 GMT
I was in England, Surrey to be exact, from June to August 1979, so I saw the whole mod and ska thing go down. The Specials went to #1 with Gangster and they were announcing the Quadrophenia release in tandem with the growing mod movement. I saw the Who at Wembley, in August I believe, and you could see all the kids going mod in front of the stadium. that must have been an exciting time for you to have been England, especially as a californian in his late 20s. what did you make of it all?
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Post by fonz on Jul 21, 2021 16:07:22 GMT
Ha ha!
I had no idea Sloop was so fucking ancient!
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jul 21, 2021 16:30:04 GMT
Ha ha! I had no idea Sloop was so fucking ancient! Any older and I could start a thread and compare liver spots with Rayge.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jul 21, 2021 16:42:52 GMT
I was in England, Surrey to be exact, from June to August 1979, so I saw the whole mod and ska thing go down. The Specials went to #1 with Gangster and they were announcing the Quadrophenia release in tandem with the growing mod movement. I saw the Who at Wembley, in August I believe, and you could see all the kids going mod in front of the stadium. that must have been an exciting time for you to have been England, especially as a californian in his late 20s. what did you make of it all? It was great. My friends and I were all into music, but I had broken off a year or two earlier and widened my musical listening tastes to funk, early rock and punk and rediscovered my love for early '70s R&B. My friends were still mainly into Lynyrd Skynrd and that kinda stuff. A couple were showing interest in other music, but just dipping their toes in. I had started going up to the Mabuhay Gardens, San Franciso's equivalent to the Masque in LA, CBGB's in NYC, and seeing groups like Devo and the Ramones and San Francisco's DK's, the Avengers and Flipper. Like here, my friends and I all had an overwhelming love for the Beatles. I had a burgeoning interest in reggae so going to England was a revelation. The late '70s were a stellar time for reggae. I'd take the train from Effingham, where I was staying, to Guildford, and then from Claygate to Oxford Circus every week and buy albums. While I was there I saw Led Zeppelin at Knebworth. I'd seen them before in Oakland, '77, and my brother and I saw the Who at Wembley. I was a fan of AC/DC, who opened, and liked Nils Lofgren, who was second on the bill. The Stranglers, who were touring the Raven, were kinda lost on me. What amazed me was the variety of music in the charts and on TV. Public Image, Ian Dury, Janet Kay, the Ruts, Junior (I loved Mama Says), were all at the top of the charts and compared to stratified and ghettoized FM radio in America, it was unbelievably inclusive and broad. I ate it up. Of course, you had artists like Judy Tzuke at the top of the charts too, but it was all good.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jul 21, 2021 16:45:50 GMT
1979 was a stellar year for chart music in the UK.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jul 21, 2021 16:53:50 GMT
A funny story. We were playing frisbee on our street and a Ford Cortina with three guys whizzed past us twice, faking to hit us. They came around the block a third time and got out of their car and I think they wanted to start a fight. When they got up close and saw how big and tall we were - I was six foot, about 185 lbs., another 6' 4", another 6" 2", and my brother, 6' 3", about 190 lbs., they got real chummy, real fast and started being really friendly and asking us questions. They were skinny little English guys.
I cut 'em off pretty fast and told them that just a minute ago they tried to hit us and they better get back in their car before we turned over their dinky little tricked out Cortina, spanked all of 'em, and sent them home to their mommies. I was much more aggressive in those days. They quietly got in their car and slowly went past us.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Jul 21, 2021 16:54:12 GMT
1979 was a stellar year for chart music in the UK. for me it was THE year. 14, impressionable, soaking it all up like a sponge. what a time to be alive!
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 21, 2021 21:48:32 GMT
each and every MOD I laid eyes on in southern californina seemed like a rich kid with a fashion hobby horse. it WAS fun seeing Quadrophenia in Westwood with dozens of Vespas parked out front.
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