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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jul 30, 2021 15:22:31 GMT
One threw down the gauntlet, the other picked it up, found it too hot, moaned about it to anyone who would listen. All went onto professional bricklaying.
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 30, 2021 16:23:09 GMT
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Jul 30, 2021 16:38:52 GMT
That depends. which Flamingos are we talking about? Well, one, Morrissey wouldn't want you to eat, the other he would want out of England.
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Post by Sneelock on Jul 30, 2021 16:46:17 GMT
Hmmm. I might need to give the matter some thought.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jul 30, 2021 17:24:53 GMT
The Jam are for gum chewing southern simpletons with silly haircuts.
The Smiths all the way.
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Post by blue on Jul 30, 2021 17:50:49 GMT
As a band it's The Smiths, although Weller at his best was probably the better lyricist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 18:19:25 GMT
The Jam, very very easily.
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Post by harrylemon on Jul 30, 2021 18:27:05 GMT
The Jam were great, The Smiths were magnificent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 16:28:03 GMT
Love the Smiths.
Morrissey even more.
What a cad!!!
Got the hipsters, punks and boomers ALL spitting into their herbal fair-trade tea with his Indie music take on a Katie Hopkins persona.....
Paul Weller has some great lines as well but Morrissey invented a whole genre by himself plus he made Johnny Marr famous....that's got to count for something.....
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Post by blue on Jul 31, 2021 17:07:51 GMT
Marr said he was left-wing in The Smiths, his camp National Front schtick didn't really surface until later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 20:18:16 GMT
Marr said he was left-wing in The Smiths, his camp National Front schtick didn't really surface until later. Two wings of the same bird my friend. The same predatory bird.
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Post by DarknessFish on Aug 1, 2021 9:07:57 GMT
Marr said he was left-wing in The Smiths, his camp National Front schtick didn't really surface until later. He was already talking about black pop music conspiracies while in The Smiths. I think he was always a racist, just less willing to shout about it before he was famous.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 4, 2021 9:37:43 GMT
It's a shame that when people talk about the Smiths these days it often ends up with chat about Morrissey's politics.
Was Weller a better lyricist? People would point to Eton Rifles and That's Entertainment as proof wouldn't they? He has that interest in social commentary that appeals but I find him quite clunky and ripe at times, like he's trying too hard. Something like English Rose makes me wince a little. Morrissey is more personal, funnier, wittier and more touching too. With Weller you can trace him back to Davies and Townshend, there is an obvious lineage there but with Morrissey he really came out of thin air, a singular creation. He is really unlike anybody else and you can see that in the hero worship he has inspired around the world. People really connect to him emotionally in a way that they don't with Weller.
Genuine question...have the Jam done something as moving, romantic and elegiac as There Is A Light That Never Goes Out? Does Weller ever touch you emotionally in the same way that Morrissey does here?
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Post by fange on Aug 4, 2021 9:43:16 GMT
Short answer, no.
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 4, 2021 9:56:10 GMT
Genuine question...have the Jam done something as moving, romantic and elegiac as There Is A Light That Never Goes Out? london traffic?
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