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Post by rayge on Aug 3, 2021 19:21:55 GMT
A Ravi Shankar - Mishra Piloo B The Remaining Few - Painted Air
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Post by oh oooh on Aug 3, 2021 20:23:50 GMT
HUGE FUCKING LOVE for that Remaining Few track. One of my absolute favourites. A would have to be exceptional to beat it....
let's have a listen....
no it sounds like MUSIC YOU WOULD HEAR WHILE EATING A FUCKING CURRY fuck off
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Post by toomanyhatz on Aug 3, 2021 20:29:28 GMT
Wow, this match really says 'declare yourself!' But I have both sides; I contain multitudes.
At the moment A is hitting the spot a bit more, and seems more above-average Shankar (that tabla break around 6:30 is pretty glorious) than B does above-average garage. It's spirited and odd, and I might vote for it in most rounds, but it just stops a little short of standing out enough to demand it.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Aug 3, 2021 21:33:06 GMT
It's hard to beat good sitar music with me, but it's especially easy with that overlong pretentious load of crap. MacArthur Park on acid and two dollops of lack of self restraint.
And it only took one response to get a racist remark in. That was fast.
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 3, 2021 22:06:40 GMT
i know Ravi is a real heavy guy. there is actual skill and style in what he and his musicians do. I feel more than a little guilty picking what sounds like a decent inclusion on a "Pebbles Volume 999" but that's what I'm going to do.
B by virtue of it's warbly, trebly. "did somebody put something in my coffee??" qualities.
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Post by DayoRemix on Aug 3, 2021 23:59:42 GMT
Raga against the machine really isn't in my wheelhouse and this truncated version hasn't changed that..At least it was shortened to ten minutes..Second track wins by default, though I'm not taken by that either..Vote B
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Post by bungo the mungo on Aug 4, 2021 6:13:20 GMT
i like the sitar as an instrument and shankar is the master but i only enjoy it in a pop context. of course, the playing is fantastic and while i'd find it pretty harmless to listen to as background music, it's not something i'd want to listen to by choice.
the remaining few track is a demented garage punk classic, what's not to like?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 9:37:09 GMT
Sometimes you have to be honest and say there are some things that are too outside your frames of reference to effectively judge. A could be Shankar at his very best or it could be him at his very worst and I wouldn't know the difference. It kind of washed over me.
You know sometimes you buy a colourful shirt, you think 'this has personality, it'll make me stand out', then you get it home and think 'nah..it's a bit too much' and it remains at the back of the wardrobe. Well anyway B is a bit like that. It has oddness and personality, and the instrumental breaks are a gas, but the whole is a bit too preposterous to want to subject yourself to it too regularly.
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Post by fange on Aug 4, 2021 11:15:56 GMT
It's a shame i'm not more into Indian music, A. I like this well enough, a pleasurable listen with some quite mellow relaxing sections and some good droning elements, but... i just don't connect with it as deeply or viscerally as with B. Would have stood more of a chance in another tie, for sure.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Aug 4, 2021 13:33:55 GMT
I really like B, but
A needs some love
I use to have a real love for Indian music, but I don't think it will be shared, so I will be brief.
Ravi might have been better served with one of his western collaborations.
Otherwise he comes across maybe too dry and academic to Western commercial ears. Ragas have uses and contexts for morning and evening, this one is for evening. Raga is the framework to improvise over. This is from Northern India, which traditionally can be more elaborate than Southern (Carnatic) India music.
Ravi Shankar feat Philip Glass - Ragas In Minor Scale -
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Post by fearlessfreap on Aug 4, 2021 14:36:26 GMT
Round these parts we don't cotton to things that are "different," in fact, they frighten us.
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Post by osgood on Aug 5, 2021 21:06:14 GMT
B is shite. But forget what I said before about listening to all picks. No way I'm going to play A. I had enough Ravi Shankar for a lifetime after playing once Side 1 of The Concert for Bangla Desh back in 1972.
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Edit: I listened to a few seconds of A. My impression from 1972 was confirmed.
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Post by blue on Aug 6, 2021 7:18:00 GMT
I like Ravi in patches, this track is a little meandering though. I prefer Anoushka these days. I've forgotten about B already.
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Post by DarknessFish on Aug 6, 2021 19:30:42 GMT
I'd love to know more about Indian music, I love a lot of what I've heard, classical, jazz-inflected, and even more Bollywood things, but I have literally no idea where to turn to find the good stuff. Or if what I like would be considered the good stuff. I guess I've also kind've avoided Ravi Shankar as it's a bit obvious clueless white man who only knows one Indian guy. Which is harsh on both Ravi, and the people who like this stuff and also have no idea where else to turn. It's a nice change of pace, and I'm glad it's not the more westernised variant, which tends to feel forced and false to me. Doesn't half cut up a fuckin' rug towards the end, proper fireworks going off there, how cool is that climax? Pretty bloody awesome as it crosses the finish line.
Might be a step too far for the standard Nuggets offcut, there have been a few respectable efforts so far, but this one is really fucking feeble. Has absolutely nothing about it, apart from the dreadful dirgey bit with the shit vocal, which isn't a great way to make a track memorable.
A by a country mile.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Aug 6, 2021 20:04:54 GMT
A
Transcendent
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