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Post by ~ / % ? * on Sept 15, 2021 22:36:42 GMT
Blinded by the Light ~ Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Pointer Sisters - Fire
Patti Smith Group - Because the Night
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 16, 2021 7:50:35 GMT
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Post by fange on Sept 16, 2021 7:54:28 GMT
What, no 'Pink Cadillac'?
I like all of these, but the MMEB's version of Blinded... is pretty special to me.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Sept 16, 2021 10:24:01 GMT
the MMEB's version of Blinded... is pretty special to me. To me too. That keyboard sound....same thing as in 'Won't Get Fooled Again', right? Is it an ARP? I think I'll vote for the Patti song THO'. BIG fucking song, dramatics nicely balanced, a total classic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 10:35:24 GMT
Not very keen on any of them. Because the Night always sounded too overwrought and strident. Blinded by the Light is probably the best THO ( though nothing like as good as Davey's On the Road)
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Post by fearlessfreap on Sept 16, 2021 11:46:14 GMT
MM says "douche" heh heh!
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Post by sloopjohnc on Sept 17, 2021 12:27:56 GMT
Between Blinded by the Light and Because the Night. Because the Night is better, in my opinion.
My favorite is Greg Kihn's Rendevous. Here's version and Springsteen teaching it to Kihn.
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Post by Charlie O. on Sept 17, 2021 16:14:52 GMT
I'm surprised "Fire" isn't getting more love. I think it's the best thing here, though "Because The Night" gives it a good run for its money. "Blinded By The Light" I never much cared for in either version.
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Post by fange on Sept 18, 2021 0:08:48 GMT
MM says "douche" heh heh! There's a really interesting back story to that... "I don't think Springsteen liked our Blinded by the Light, 'cos we sang 'wrapped up like a douche', and it wasn't written like that and I screwed it up completely. It sounded like 'douche' instead of 'deuce', 'cos of the technical process – a faulty azimuth due to tape-head angles, and it meant we couldn't remix it. Warners in America said, 'You've got to change 'douche', 'cos the Southern Bible belt radio stations think it's about a vaginal douche, and they have problems with body parts down there.' We tried to change it to 'deuce' but then the rest of the track sounded horrible, so we had to leave it. We just said, 'If it's not a hit, it's not.' But in the end, it was No.1 in America, and so many people came up to us after and said, 'You know why it made No. 1?... Everyone was talking about whether it was deuce or douche.' Apparently Springsteen thought we'd done it deliberately, which we hadn't, so if I ever saw him I'd avoid him and cringe away like a frightened little boy." — Manfred Mann, Record Collector interview (August 2006), [5]
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Post by fange on Sept 18, 2021 0:13:45 GMT
the MMEB's version of Blinded... is pretty special to me. To me too. That keyboard sound....same thing as in 'Won't Get Fooled Again', right? Is it an ARP? I think I'll vote for the Patti song THO'. BIG fucking song, dramatics nicely balanced, a total classic. The credits say he uses a Minimoog! Yep, a total classic. The "Chopsticks" section in the middle, those gorgeous multi-tracked, staggered vocals at the end with the phased effects, it all sounded so fucking good coming out of a radio in the 70s.
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Post by fange on Sept 26, 2021 6:43:18 GMT
It's hard NOT to hear 'Fire' like this now...
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Post by clive gash on Oct 4, 2021 20:38:35 GMT
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Post by quaco on Oct 5, 2021 16:11:06 GMT
To me too. That keyboard sound....same thing as in 'Won't Get Fooled Again', right? Is it an ARP? I think I'll vote for the Patti song THO'. BIG fucking song, dramatics nicely balanced, a total classic. The credits say he uses a Minimoog! Yep, a total classic. The "Chopsticks" section in the middle, those gorgeous multi-tracked, staggered vocals at the end with the phased effects, it all sounded so fucking good coming out of a radio in the 70s. Watching a live version from Midnight Special and it sounds the same as the studio version. The intro is a Fender Rhodes, sounds like there's a phaser on it. Second version is long chords on a Hammond organ. The mini-moog is that rising special effect during the widdly-widdly guitar part. www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pIPete Townshend's use of keyboards on Who's Next is generally misunderstood. On "Won't Get Fooled Again", he's holding down chords on a regular home organ, but it's put through the ARP to get the pulsing sound. So the sound is that of an organ. That's not what the ARP sounds like. www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5voNyRmvXs (starting at :30, the first part is Glyn Johns with the usual 'it's amazing what Pete was doing, synthesizers are sooo complex' thing) Same with "Baba O'Riley" in that it sounds like this fancy synthesizer sequence, but it's actually that organ again, using a "marimba repeat" setting (a built-in special effect to make Aunt Edna's home performance of "Jamaica Farewell" sound a bit more authentic). www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgPtksNqbCkThe actual sound of the ARP is heard on the little melody on "Bargain", and then there's a lot of it on Quadrophenia and the Tommy soundtrack where he overdubs it to create an orchestrated sound.
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Post by Crunchy Col on Oct 5, 2021 16:20:55 GMT
There's an ARP on Bowie's Berlin stuff, I think. Oh I don't fucking know
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Post by quaco on Oct 5, 2021 17:00:11 GMT
There's an ARP on Bowie's Berlin stuff, I think. Oh I don't fucking know Yeah, I think there is! All keyboards have a unique sound. But usually, we just picture "keyboards" looking like sort of a big synthesizer and doing "just everything". People credit synthesizers with everything. (Remember when they thought Klaatu was The Beatles and they altered the voices to sound less Beatle-like by using synthesizers? Rather than, perhaps, it NOT being The Beatles after all.) But each one has its own sound.
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