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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 16, 2022 15:43:59 GMT
Half a century eh? What do you think about it now? Is it a masterpiece? His best? What do you think about the whole concept thing?
What's your favourite songs/moments?
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Post by rayge on Jun 16, 2022 15:56:55 GMT
The concept was naff, but it's the only Bowie album I really got into. I can't say it's his best, because I've swerved so many of them, but it's certainly more enjoyable than any others I've heard. It got played a lot in the early Seventies, although I never listened to it when tripping, which seems a bit odd. I didn't vote for best tracks yet, because, tbh, I couldn't remember half of them.
Well, I expect that got everyone's adrenaline pumping.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Jun 16, 2022 15:59:11 GMT
The concept was naff, but it's the only Bowie album I really got into. I can't say it's his best, because I've swerved so many of them, but it's certainly more enjoyable than any others I've heard. It got played a lot in the early Seventies, although I never listened to it when tripping, which seems a bit odd. I didn't vote for best tracks yet, because, tbh, I couldn't remember half of them. Well, I expect that got everyone's adrenaline pumping. Did you ever think of styling your hair in a shag, Ray? Be honest. . .
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Post by rayge on Jun 16, 2022 16:09:14 GMT
I have NEVER 'styled' my hair, and if I had, certainly wouldn't be doing so during an act of coitus
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 17:14:59 GMT
Not his best (others are more ambitious and more surprising), but probably his best sequenced.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 17:17:26 GMT
I went for Star ( the album's most underrated track), Soul Love and Five Years. On another day etc.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 16, 2022 17:20:06 GMT
Yes.
Moonage
Starman
Star
Terribly dated and cringeworthy lyrically ('mellow-thighed chick', 'be a rock 'n' rolling bitch for you') with a rotten title track - BUT a very fine album full of great tunes that works well to create a particular world and to put you right in it. And of course the cover helps with that.
I might prefer Diamond Dogs by a small margin but recognise the importance people place on this one.
Roxy's debut came out the same day, btw...
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jun 16, 2022 17:20:19 GMT
It's a masterpiece.
It's also so firmly implanted in my psyche as a whole that I have a hard time choosing any songs as favourites. I think it could be the first album that I really fell in love with as a collection of songs, and not just a handful of hits with some lesser tunes thrown into the mix.
Yeah, I can't decide. They're all wonderful, without a single dud amongst them.
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Post by quaco on Jun 16, 2022 17:30:17 GMT
I like the vagueness of the concept. I've read some stuff from the time where he described what the concept really was, and it's far too confusing. I prefer concept albums like this, with just a bit of it, not too didactic or exacting.
It is indeed very well sequenced. I wouldn't change a single note, even though (as G says) some album may be more surprising or daring ...
It is pretty daring opening with a long, slow number, however. I think this is one of his most Lennon-esque decisions, straight out of Plastic Ono Band ("Mother"). It goes against the traditional "start with something energetic" sequencing idea, and slowly but firmly leads you into this other world.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 16, 2022 17:36:59 GMT
Is it not "mellow black chick"?
As a collection of songs goes it's great although I agree that the title track is one of the weaker moments. However, the rest is pretty golden and even It Ain't Easy doesn't sound out of place despite being a cover. It's a shame he didn't find a place for Velvet Goldmine mind but it appears the tracklisting was changed quite a bit and right up until the last minute too.
The opening 4 tracks are pretty hard to beat for any album. That's some real grade A stuff right there.....big, sweeping, grand, melodic as hell and full of cosmic wonder. Lady Stardust (tribute to Bolan) and Star are two of his more overlooked gems and I've always loved the former and find it one of his sweetest moments. Great song. It ends strongly too with Suffragette City collapsing into Suicide which is a bit silly really but it still pulls off its heartfelt teenage melodrama with suitable rock n roll star apocalyptic aplomb. How many teenagers heard "You're not alone!" and believed Bowie was talking directly to them you know? I can't dismiss that sorta stuff, even as a cynical gen-xer. I felt it too.
Ken Scott did a great job on the production as well.
I have no problems with masterpiece.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jun 16, 2022 17:37:50 GMT
I went with Five Years, Lady and Starman.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jun 16, 2022 17:51:33 GMT
Starman for me still sounds like the boldest and most ridiculously infectiously fun pop record ever. That for me is Bowie at his very best - camping it up, great songwriting, gorgeous arrangement (the strings and the 'la la la' at the end only matched by a couple on Transformer).
When he tries for Statement Rock of whatever colour he often falls flat, as I think Ray suggested a couple of days ago.
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Post by osgood on Jun 16, 2022 19:27:47 GMT
Surprised at the dismiss for the title track, one of my faves, I did vote for it besides Moonage and Starman.
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Post by quaco on Jun 16, 2022 19:33:41 GMT
Is it not "mellow black chick"? It is "mellow thighed chick" on the lyric sheet
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Post by quaco on Jun 16, 2022 19:34:01 GMT
Five Years, Star, and Rock and Roll Suicide.
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