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Post by Charlie O. on Mar 31, 2024 0:29:56 GMT
For hatz:
Trailer Bride - "Trains At Night"
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Post by toomanyhatz on Apr 1, 2024 21:18:16 GMT
Ooh, I feel bad about this - 'cause I like Charlie a lot, but also because it hits a whole bunch of my superficial pleasure points, but really really not for me.
Not sure if it's the voice, which, whether it's quote-unquote authentic or not, is just too much of a 'performance' if that makes any sense. The 4 minute length with a lot of repeated bits and a lot of dead air didn't help either.
As I often seem to say often about music made post-1996 or so, 30 seconds worth of good ideas stretched out artificially beyond its capability.
This, on the other hand, keeps me riveted for 7-minutes plus, and is a huge, huge, indescribably huge influence on my own guitar playing though I am obviously nowhere near this good.
Martin Carthy - Willie's Lady
I'd be happy to know what anyone thinks of this, other than "folk music? Yuck!" but I'd particularly like to know what the Fishy one makes of it.
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 2, 2024 0:56:48 GMT
Ooh, I feel bad about this - 'cause I like Charlie a lot, but also because it hits a whole bunch of my superficial pleasure points, but really really not for me. Not sure if it's the voice, which, whether it's quote-unquote authentic or not, is just too much of a 'performance' if that makes any sense. The 4 minute length with a lot of repeated bits and a lot of dead air didn't help either. As I often seem to say often about music made post-1996 or so, 30 seconds worth of good ideas stretched out artificially beyond its capability. I'm not at all surprised, let alone offended, that you didn't love the recording as much as I do. (And I sure wasn't expecting anyone else to!) I am a little surprised by your take on the song itself. I can see where Melissa Swingle's voice, especially in the absence of a band, would be a deal-breaker for many. (For what it's worth: though she does, in other respects, often self-consciously turn the "Southern" up to 11, I can attest that that is her real honest-to-goodness voice.) Actually, the first time I heard this song, it wasn't sung by her. My friend Robert had recently joined Trailer Bride as bassist (he ended up leaving after their first and arguably best album). Before he joined, he had played me some shambolic boombox demos of the nascent group; I thought they were... cute, sorta, but he heard something more there and told me he thought he was going to join them, which really surprised and puzzled me (he was a proper musician!). Now I was sitting in his living room and we were passing an acoustic guitar back and forth, trading songs - Hank Williams, Michael Hurley (who had introduced us), I forget who else - and he said "I think I'll play you something Melissa just wrote." I said "alright" and braced myself for something underwhelming that I was going to have to pretend was at least okay-ish. He sang "Trains At Night", and when he finished I heard myself asking him to sing it again; he did. I thought that as simple as it was, it was one of the most beautifully moving songs I'd heard in a long while. As for the recording here, from the band's debut album, I do kinda wish the actual performance, including the guitar playing, was stronger (I'm pretty sure I've heard a take with the full band that was quite nice), but I still think the song's a beaut. I'd be proud to claim it for my own. |
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 3, 2024 14:47:32 GMT
Ooh, I feel bad about this - 'cause I like Charlie a lot, but also because it hits a whole bunch of my superficial pleasure points, but really really not for me. Not sure if it's the voice, which, whether it's quote-unquote authentic or not, is just too much of a 'performance' if that makes any sense. The 4 minute length with a lot of repeated bits and a lot of dead air didn't help either. As I often seem to say often about music made post-1996 or so, 30 seconds worth of good ideas stretched out artificially beyond its capability. This, on the other hand, keeps me riveted for 7-minutes plus, and is a huge, huge, indescribably huge influence on my own guitar playing though I am obviously nowhere near this good. Martin Carthy - Willie's Lady I'd be happy to know what anyone thinks of this, other than "folk music? Yuck!" but I'd particularly like to know what the Fishy one makes of it. I think that often when you've picked something folky, I've tended to say it's a bit plastic, pop with a hint of fiddle or something. No fear of that with this song, if anything it goes too trad for my taste. I quite like it, but I think it's trying too hard to be trad, Carthy is really insistent on getting all the words out with the right inflection and the right rhythm, and it's a bit overbearing. I don't think it has room to breathe, there's no playfulness or personality from Martin. All of which sounds like criticism, but like I said, it's pretty good, it just doesn't feel like an interpretation but an attempt at re-creation. He definitely knows how a guitar should be played, sure enough. |
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 3, 2024 14:57:31 GMT
Is it cheating to throw something straight back at hatz? For some reason, the folkiness as led me straight to Joanna Brouk's wide open spaces, and I dunno if anyone else would appreciate the pastoral nature of this beautiful piece of flute.
Not sure it's very preludiny. But I love a bit of Brouk.
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Post by toomanyhatz on Apr 3, 2024 21:11:13 GMT
You know who'd love it? Rayge! (I kid...I kid.)
I don't have the allergy to flute that Ray does, and I find that pleasant enough, just doesn't really ever make it to the foreground. Certainly didn't dislike it, but I found little there to hold onto. I likes a bit of minimalism, but this either goes too far or not far enough. 2 minutes or 18 minutes - not 4.
Let's do what we call in my hiking group an "out and back" - we'll back out the way we came, with me shooting this back to Charlie.
It's a song with an interesting history, which I assume Charlie might even know some of. Speaking of turning the southern up...
The Stoneman Family - West Canterbury Subdivision Blues
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Post by DarknessFish on Apr 3, 2024 21:57:54 GMT
I was going to pick a 21 minute track, but thought that would be taking the piss!
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Post by Charlie O. on Apr 3, 2024 23:16:04 GMT
Let's do what we call in my hiking group an "out and back" - we'll back out the way we came, with me shooting this back to Charlie. It's a song with an interesting history, which I assume Charlie might even know some of. Speaking of turning the southern up... The Stoneman Family - West Canterbury Subdivision Blues I know nothing of the song or its history - but so certain was I (before the first verse was over) that it was a Lee Hazlewood song, I had to go check (it's actually Cowboy Jack Clement) (unless Lee sold it to him!). I like it. I'm not wild about it, but I'm happy to make its acquaintance. Here's one for Loveless. The song's really only about three minutes long; I guess the uploader had more glamourpuss pictures than he could get through in that time. |
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Post by loveless on Apr 4, 2024 11:20:04 GMT
YES!
This is major! Incredible track, so much spirit and attitude. Where soul meets garage. I love it unreservedly. Went to Discogs to see how badly I was gonna get robbed on the 45, and...naturally, learned that these folks, in the main, went on to become Rare Earth. Which, one you know it, is audibly apparent.
10/10.
Alright, I'm sending one to Coan:
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Post by Ollard on Apr 4, 2024 19:25:53 GMT
Thanks, John!
Gruff Rhys! I like what he does a lot. There's a kind of melancholy strain to much of what he's put out as a solo artist and I find it really attractive. It doesn't compromise his melodic tendencies, either. I'm a huge SFA fan but I've followed his own stuff with interest too.
Did I tell you I saw him last year? He was supporting The Coral and he was fabulous. I walked out halfway through their act (showy, serious, lots of fancy lights and fancy guitars) because I felt my pockets were already more than full. Gruff had the tiniest band and he was in great spirits - although he's obviously a shy man there was lots of fun moments, and great tunes.
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Post by Ollard on Apr 4, 2024 19:26:19 GMT
This one's for Jimmy
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Post by adamcoan on Apr 4, 2024 21:39:44 GMT
Its got all the elements of the sound of what they ( I suppose) did first.
It plays now like an Indie super collective of punillux, gang of four, devo and xtc, to name a few. Do we ever need that ?
I don't know if it's good or bad, probably bad. Yet, there is something there, not sure what.
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Post by Ollard on Apr 4, 2024 22:41:34 GMT
Ah well.
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Post by adamcoan on Apr 6, 2024 20:10:28 GMT
These islands Nico
For G
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Apr 8, 2024 11:17:07 GMT
Pretty good J, it does have a stark intensity.
Apparently a co-write with Damon Albarn, he gets everywhere doesn't he? Effective string arrangement which brings a power to the track. Good, if not quite 'my thing'(I can only really do stern and sombre if it's accompanied by beauty).
I'll post something later.
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