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Post by Reactionary Rage on Sept 12, 2023 8:05:39 GMT
Eminem....the Eddie Vedder of hip hop lol
That's made my day G lad
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Sept 12, 2023 8:11:59 GMT
There's something very white boy/mainstream about him. If Pearl Jam, or someone like that, went hip hop you feel they'd sound like Eninem He was PRETTY FLY FOR A WHITE GUY
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Sept 12, 2023 9:47:37 GMT
I had "Lose Yourself" on my (extremely) shortlist for 2002 (a year I ended up abstaining from altogether). In terms of my enduring affection for both "Stan" and "Lose Yourself", a major part of the wow factor is "a new and different kind of track". You wouldn't hear either of those and consider them in any way analogous to some pre-existing template or form. They were definitely distinctive. With hindsight he's the last male pop star I guess even if he was the Eddie Vedder of hip hop.
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loveless
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Bringing ballet to the masses. Sticking to the funk.
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Post by loveless on Sept 12, 2023 9:56:24 GMT
"Roguesplaining"
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Sept 12, 2023 15:14:19 GMT
2003
On to 2003 then. Could it be anything else? Seven Nation Army perhaps but this stands out as one of the last really good pop songs that became a huge hit to the point where it seemed that "we" almost all agreed on its brilliance at the time. Like a lot of the best pop music it has that quality of being instantly familiar like it's just fallen from the pop heavens fully formed, dressed like a 70s pimp and ready to make us shake our collective arses. Suitably the rhythm section has an irresistible snap, crackle and dancefloor pop; the chorus has some fabulous 80s style Minneapolis keyboards and synths and, thank the Lord, they remind us that handclaps in pop music improve everything. In fact, they make them into a triumphant, slamming hook. The clever bastards even manage to create two new pop catchphrases in one song...."what's cooler than being cool? Ice cold!" and "Lend me some sugar! I am your neighbour!". Hey Ya! is one of the rare examples in modern pop music (it's only 20 years old so it's modern to me baby!) where the retro-isms and post modern touches felt alive and vibrant placing the record as part of a continuum whilst still sounding modern and fresh. Bonus points for the video too. Nice work fellas. Kudos to everyone involved.
I saw Andre in Sydney at some record store around this time. He had jodhpurs on and was about 4ft 10" tall. True story.
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toomanyhatz
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Post by toomanyhatz on Sept 12, 2023 17:42:20 GMT
2002A few faves from this year, with good albums by Flaming Lips, Supergrass, Drive-By Truckers, Derek Trucks, and the twin releases by Tom Waits. But I have to go for something off Sea Change, one of Beck's finest records, a bit in the opposite direction from his previous albums. A bunch of tracks deserve being picked, and I'll go for this one with its wonderful string arrangement. Beck - Paper Tiger My choice for the year is from the same album, but I'll go for this one. Lugubrious as fuck, but that's what I love about it. I think this is the only time Beck has actually been emotionally revealing. There is some feeling that this may be just another guise- 70s singer/songwriter rather than funkster or lounge lizard - but the investment he puts into this one at least suggests he knows what's good about the best of the era he's lending tribute to (rather than satirizing). Few modern 5-minute songs allow themselves to unfold this slowly. They're too busy revealing the hook in the first 30 seconds then beating it into the ground. Now, as then, for as plaintive as this is, it's thoroughly refreshing in both its inspiration and execution. 2002Beck - Round the Bend
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toomanyhatz
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Post by toomanyhatz on Sept 12, 2023 17:44:38 GMT
At the moment, at least, nothing from 2001 is compelling me. I like that Strokes album.
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Post by osgood on Sept 12, 2023 19:01:01 GMT
2003On to 2003 then. Could it be anything else? Seven Nation Army perhaps Well, that's my pick. 2003The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
I know it's ubiquity has made it some kind of 21st Century Smoke on the Water, but I see it as an undeniable great track.
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toomanyhatz
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Post by toomanyhatz on Sept 14, 2023 20:09:13 GMT
Woulda been my pick too.
I mean, of course. Obviously.
Ever try to write a classic, instantly recognizable riff that can be played at bone-rattling volume to a stadium of tens of thousands? I mean, if it were so damn easy, everyone would do it, right?
I honestly think this is the sum total of all their strengths, and yes, I do think Meg's Mo Tucker beat here has a lot to do with it. It's stripped to the essentials, but also recorded to sound a whole hell of a lot bigger than the sum of its parts.
I loved this album when it came out, but I'm not going to pick a different song from it. This is the one. It's my pick, someone just beat me to it.
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Post by riggers on Sept 16, 2023 11:35:46 GMT
2002 Wilco-"Jesus, etc."
From 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot". The album where I came on board, having realised that there was more to this lot than just 'Alt-Country'. Possibly their greatest song, it had a great cover version by Bill Fay a few years later.
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Post by riggers on Sept 16, 2023 11:38:07 GMT
2003 Yeah Yeah Yeahs-"Maps"
I nearly went for 'Date With The Night', a snappier, rockin' kinda thing, but this, possibly because of the famous video has a little more emotional weight to it.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Sept 18, 2023 7:12:23 GMT
2004
My favourite track of the year "These Are The Ghosts" by The Bees. I really liked its folky neo psych tinge and the driving way it builds. Not particularly innovative or anything like that, but memorable nevertheless. There wasn't a lot happening this year for me though..
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Post by DarknessFish on Sept 18, 2023 8:39:56 GMT
2004 was such a great year, and included some of the great re-releases/archival dig-outs which I won't include for contention here, such as Arthur Russell's Calling out of Context which never saw the light of day till now.
However, the stand-out genius of the era for me is Joanna Newsom. Certainly a divisive figure, her voice either appeals or makes you run for the hills in a non Iron Maiden way. Never more on the track I've chosen here, "Peach, Plum, Pear". She can be accused of a lyrical verbosity or archness sometimes, but here we have a fairly simple (but still kinda poetic) lyric of unrequited love in the grocery store, which serves the sometimes childlike nature of her voice wonderfully. The harpsichord is a delight, and her voice absolutely flies, and screeches around the track with a dynamism and unrestrained emotion that's pretty gobsmacking.
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Post by fearlessfreap on Sept 18, 2023 12:27:55 GMT
Madvillain - All Caps
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Post by davey on Sept 20, 2023 0:34:31 GMT
2004
Johnny Boy - You Are the Generation that Bought More Shoes and You Get What You Deserve
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