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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 22:54:25 GMT
I disagree re Shane Meadows as well, he's made some strong films but I find him a bit too cartoonish to be representative.
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Post by sloopjohnc on Oct 20, 2020 20:50:52 GMT
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 22, 2020 21:51:45 GMT
Pretty good. I liked Jane a lot and I REALLY liked Gina. I still want to find songs as good as 'We Got The Beat' and 'Our Lips Are Sealed' (both of which lift my heart sky fuckin' high) but I think it's not going to happen. Still - great band.
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Post by Sneelock on Oct 22, 2020 22:24:39 GMT
"Talk Show" got a ridiculous amount of critical acclaim when it was new.
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Post by oh oooh on Oct 31, 2020 1:24:41 GMT
I gave up on both The Naked Kiss and Joker this evening.
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Post by Charlie O. on Oct 31, 2020 3:06:37 GMT
Just finished The Trial Of The Chicago 7. As good as I could possibly have expected, perhaps better.
I was surprised, though, by the degree to which Abbie Hoffman's courtroom provocations were downplayed, because there were certainly many more of them in real life. (At one point he told Judge Julius Hoffman that he - Julius - was "a frontman for the gentiles!" - in Yiddish.) Most filmmakers would have played that up, but I reckon Sorkin wanted to tell a different story, and - fair enough.
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Post by tory on Oct 31, 2020 22:15:14 GMT
Difficult to think of a better speculative fiction film in the last 20/30 years. The book is better though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 13:17:55 GMT
Just finished The Trial Of The Chicago 7. As good as I could possibly have expected, perhaps better. I was surprised, though, by the degree to which Abbie Hoffman's courtroom provocations were downplayed, because there were certainly many more of them in real life. (At one point he told Judge Julius Hoffman that he - Julius - was "a frontman for the gentiles!" - in Yiddish.) Most filmmakers would have played that up, but I reckon Sorkin wanted to tell a different story, and - fair enough. Seen this get a fair amount of criticism for being inaccurate, apparently Sorkin made the prosecutor a guy troubled by a liberal conscience whereas the real life guy was a total hawk. It's put me off a bit. I did really enjoy the film of the trial made by HBO in the late eighties. Remember that Charlie?
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Post by Charlie O. on Nov 1, 2020 18:22:32 GMT
Seen this get a fair amount of criticism for being inaccurate, apparently Sorkin made the prosecutor a guy troubled by a liberal conscience whereas the real life guy was a total hawk. It's put me off a bit. That character needed a little more work, frankly. Questionable accuracy aside, Sorkin seemed to have had a hard time deciding which way to go with him, because he is "a total hawk" in many of the trial scenes, but then... there's the other bits; it never really comes together. Yeah, there are quite a few "Hollywood-isms" (especially the ending) but I expected as much.
I did really enjoy the film of the trial made by HBO in the late eighties. Remember that Charlie? No! I'd love to see it. I did a paper on the trial for my 11th grade history class. Neither my history teacher nor my father was particularly pleased by my choice of subject, I think. In truth, it wasn't one of my better papers; it was probably a mistake to use Abbie's Soon To Be A Major Motion Picture as my primary source.
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Post by jeffk on Nov 10, 2020 19:44:35 GMT
I finally found the time to watch The Irishman which I held off on because of the mixed reviews and I wasn't quite sure I needed another Scorsese gangster film. It was good, not great. As most of the complaints about it were its length I'll have to go along with that too. The last hour especially dragged. The performances, with the exception of DeNiro whose character I found dull and uninteresting, were terrific. Especially Al Pacino typically chewing up scene after scene as Jimmy Hoffa. I also enjoyed the return of Joe Pesci in an understated role for a changed. I did enjoy the mixing of politics and the news events of the day with the story. Overall, rhe film felt like an epilogue for the Scorsese gangster film.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2020 22:32:53 GMT
No! I'd love to see it. I did a paper on the trial for my 11th grade history class. Neither my history teacher nor my father was particularly pleased by my choice of subject, I think. In truth, it wasn't one of my better papers; it was probably a mistake to use Abbie's Soon To Be A Major Motion Picture as my primary source. Here you go Charlie
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Post by Charlie O. on Nov 12, 2020 5:35:10 GMT
^ Finally watched it. (And I just learned a few minutes ago that it's also on Amazon Prime, at least in the US, if anyone's interested.) Yes, it does feel more accurate, less Disney-fied than the new one, and generally more satisfying as a result. I think that the new one might have better performances overall, though. Also much more convincing wigs/mustaches!
I was trying to figure out where I knew the actor playing Abbie from. Michael Lembeck. I looked him up on IMDB and found that he was in one of my all-time favorite movies, The In-Laws - he was Peter Falk's son Tommy (the groom-to-be). Nowadays he's a director - did a lot of Friends and Mad About You episodes.
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Post by Sneelock on Nov 12, 2020 7:29:00 GMT
His dad was Eric Von Zipper in the Beach Party movies. Acting Royalty.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Nov 12, 2020 12:10:54 GMT
...one of my all-time favorite movies, The In-Laws - he was Peter Falk's son Tommy...
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Post by Charlie O. on Nov 12, 2020 18:09:54 GMT
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