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Post by Inspector Norse on Apr 30, 2019 8:03:58 GMT
I found it pleasant but rather minor and it didn't really say much to me that I hadn't got from other things.
I love Tarkovsky but would never choose Mirror as his best. It's all a little too vague and disconnected. His best work would be Andrei Rublev or Stalker.
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Post by driftin on May 1, 2019 5:58:41 GMT
I’ve seen them all at least twice and I love every one although Citizen Kane, Bicycle Thieves, and 8½ are a small step down from Apocalypse Now, Mirror, Tokyo Story, and 2001: a Space Odyssey which I consider just about on another level from even the greats.
It took me years to fully understand Tokyo Story but I watched it again a few months back and it devastated me. I’m somewhat surprised it’s rated so highly by filmmakers because it’s just about the least flashy world cinema classic there is. Perhaps that’s why they voted for it. It’s the very definition of efficient minimalism as it achieves so much with so little.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 1, 2019 8:01:16 GMT
Ozu is one of those directors whose films grow as you age and their themes start to resonate more. I’m not sure you can really understand the pain that parents experience when their children leave home for example as a young man. There's a humanity there that is deeply touching.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 1, 2019 15:23:06 GMT
How do you get to see these films in the cinema? You get retrospectives at some arthouse places but still, you can be waiting years. I don't recall seeing a Tarkovsky season playing at GFT over the last two or three years, for example. Welles and Hitchcock, yes.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 15:36:04 GMT
There was a Tarkovsky season at the Tyneside in Newcastle a couple of years ago, I got to see Andrei Rublev there. But yeah, you can't really be cinema exclusive with directors like that if you want to actually watch the films.
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Post by driftin on May 1, 2019 17:29:46 GMT
How do you get to see these films in the cinema? You get retrospectives at some arthouse places but still, you can be waiting years. I don't recall seeing a Tarkovsky season playing at GFT over the last two or three years, for example. Welles and Hitchcock, yes. You find your local indie / arthouse cinema and get lucky with the right timing, whether it's for a re-release (most likely on a big anniversary date) or because they're having some kind of festival or season based around a theme or person like a director. The BFI Southbank in London pretty much screens these kinds of films all the time. I used to go at least three times a week back in the late 00s and because it's the main hub of international, arthouse, and classic cinema in the UK they'd actually have talks with the directors and writers before or after some of the screenings. I managed to bump into Alejandro Jodorowsky there once when they showed El Topo. I don't live in London anymore, I'm in Leicester now and the indie cinema here isn't quite up to the same standard as the BFI but it's still pretty damned good as a respite from the multiplexes. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of much free time like I used to which is probably a good thing otherwise I'd be in there all day every day. www.phoenix.org.uk/whats-on/?category=cinema
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 1, 2019 17:35:05 GMT
How do you get to see these films in the cinema? You get retrospectives at some arthouse places but still, you can be waiting years. I don't recall seeing a Tarkovsky season playing at GFT over the last two or three years, for example. Welles and Hitchcock, yes. I've seen 7 on the big screen. It is an issue but the Filmhouse in Edinburgh is pretty good. The Cameo used to be but has changed its approach sadly. When I lived in Aberdeen it was much harder though and if you don't live in a major city you're pretty much fucked.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 1, 2019 18:58:36 GMT
I think one of those Edinburgh places had a Bergman season a year or two ago...
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 1, 2019 19:07:05 GMT
I’ve seen Persona, Wild Strawberries, Seventh Seal, Fanny and Alexander and Cries and Whispers there. There’s been a few others as well I recall over the years (Magic Flute, The Touch, Summer With Monika).
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 1, 2019 19:13:09 GMT
Hell of a way to spend time. It certainly beats watching them at home - even with the best set-up.
I think my best recent cinema experience was seeing The Creature From The Black Lagoon in 3-D at the Filmoteca in Barcelona. It's never going to make a critics' list but it was such fun!
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Post by Reactionary Rage on May 1, 2019 19:20:09 GMT
It’s special and precious. I watch more movies at the cinema then I’ve ever done these days.
Check out the latest Filmhouse brochure for an idea of what they show.
I’ll be going to see Barry Lyndon with the lass for sure. Also the Conformist
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 1, 2019 19:37:26 GMT
I check out all those cinemas regularly - Cameo, Filmhouse, GFT, Tyneside.
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Post by Sneelock on May 1, 2019 22:55:43 GMT
it's a good list. I like them all very much. I'm a little surprised that "vertigo"'s reputation has come back so strong & I always had a few problems with "taxi driver". I wouldn't for a moment begrudge either of them a place on such a list. the biggest kick is seeing "Apocalypse Now" regarded as a bona fide classic. it wasn't always, you know. "flawed masterpiece" was a phrase you often heard. well, I guess half of "flawed masterpiece" is "masterpiece". I hope the family don't mind when I drag them all to a movie theater to see it when it's re-released. I hope he doesn't screw it up. ew.com/movies/2019/04/28/apocalypse-now-final-cut/I'd like to say a word about "8 1/2" because I adore it. it's noted for it's self reflection and pretentiousness - I think both these things are fair. I think there's a bigger elephant in the room - dreams! FF is the guy who made dreams acceptable in films the way guys like Einstein perfected two-shots and close-ups. I think it's an astonishing thing. one of the characters from his film/life/dreams says "you can't live without us!!!" it's been often imitated but in a way that is as often accomplished as inept. I think he added to the toolbox - to the language film makers have at their disposal. Hell, Kurosowa thought so. not too shabby!
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Post by nolamike on Jul 3, 2019 17:47:28 GMT
Mirror. Meh. Yeah some beautiful visuals but too ellipitical. Maybe one day it will click. Mirror was the only one on the list I hadn't seen, until last night. I had pretty much the same reaction as you. Stalker was the only other Tarkovsky I'd seen, which I need to rectify.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jul 3, 2019 17:53:04 GMT
So weird you bumped this - I bought Stalker on Bluray a couple of days ago and I'm planning to watch it tonight (my first Tarkovsky).
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