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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 15, 2019 10:09:51 GMT
I love walking through Czech housing projects. I've lived there too. They're not bad places to live.
You can appreciate the look of something without having to get on your high horse and deliver a mock-sympathetic lecture about housing conditions for the poor.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 15, 2019 10:15:20 GMT
Anyway - look up any list of 'most interesting brutalist buildings' and you'll find churches, libraries, schools, shopping complexes. Not 'apartment blocks', typically.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 15, 2019 10:18:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 21:11:58 GMT
Interesting link. I didn't know that's how Brutalism got its name.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Dec 15, 2019 22:00:45 GMT
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Post by oleandermedian on Dec 19, 2019 19:57:01 GMT
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Dec 19, 2019 23:22:10 GMT
I was in there just a couple of years ago. Montreal's metro stations are, for the most part, all pretty cool looking. I think you'd like Montreal, John.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Nov 15, 2020 9:58:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 10:20:05 GMT
"aspirational and enlightened" ...really?
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Post by tory on Nov 15, 2020 10:41:49 GMT
It's the Guardian!
Straplines written by 20 something hipsters who live in Victorian semis but dream about concrete dystopias through coffee table books showing stark lines set against rich blue skies. It's enough to make one retch.
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Post by DarknessFish on Nov 15, 2020 10:45:57 GMT
Ha, I like the fact they're calling that church as being part of Worsley Mesnes, which is probably the single roughest area in wigan, whereas Poolstock (where it is) is quite nice. That will annoy the locals. It's not an imposing building at all, btw, it looks a bit rubbish.
That Manchester uni building is a mess, too, and although Preston bus station is always held up as some kind of pinnacle of brutalism, it is a really dismal building, even as far as car parks go.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Nov 15, 2020 10:46:54 GMT
This is getting tiresome. If you don't like it, then fuck off to the football thread.
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Post by DarknessFish on Nov 15, 2020 10:54:11 GMT
Well, that's today's episode of Architecture Today wrapped up. Next week, Pizza Hut St Helens, shit or what?
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Nov 15, 2020 10:59:09 GMT
I posted that before you replied, df - it wasn't meant for you.
I don't understand Toby. He's said himself that this kind of architecture is appealing (it's on page one, I think) - but invariably goes on (and on...and ON...) to talk about how horrible it must be to live in such conditions. And I've replied on several occasions that a) we're not looking at residential buildings in the main, and b) I've actually lived in and among these kinds of blocks in Europe and they're generally well run, and in some ways (yes honestly) kind of attractive.
If you find thatched cottages in Berkshire more comfortable then fair enough but please don't continue to make the same points again and again about how awful these brutalist structures are. It's really getting boring. And it's irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 11:05:58 GMT
This is getting tiresome. If you don't like it, then fuck off to the football thread. People find this stuff genuinely ugly, dispiriting and soul destroying..you get that right? Furthermore the people who have to live in these places never get asked their opinion. If they were the ones salivating over this stuff, there wouldn't be nearly the same reaction. But they're not are they? And that's why Toby is right to point out the voyeuristic titillation in all of this. I mean look at those buildings in the Rickersgate or Wigan photos..why should we celebrate them? Why not instead say 'Knock the ugly fuckers down'.
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