Nonchalant About Violence

[Markus]

I happened across a report about an Irish Aussie rules player who got in a kerfuffle with another player and he got headbutted. The Irish lad waved it off as "Handbags".It got me thinking about people's reactions, including my own, to violence. Apart from getting slaps from my parents for acting the cunt growing up, I've never been in a fight or had a rough up bringing. Still if I heard someone got a kicking or chinned, outside of ending up in a coma, I'd would be nonchalant about it, like "aw aye?". I have 20 years working in the bar trade and seen a good few scrapes maybe that's it. Maybe it's a working class thing that lives up to a stereotype. My parents started off working class,but we're very middle class now.

How do you react to violence?

[Sneelock]

most of the violence I've been around can be classified as either "domestic abuse" or "excessive force" by police.

once I stepped off a curb to cross the street and almost got run over. I yelled "fuck!" the brakes screeched and a guy came out, ran up to me and put his chest in my face. "what did you say?" All the anger drained out of me. "I said fuck. I'm sorry. you surprised me" All the anger drained out of him. "yeah, man, I'm sorry too. I honestly didn't see you"

okay, the only reason I'm bringing this up is that sometimes we are civilized people and we remember. not always but sometimes. sometimes violence comes up and they are not civilized people and you need to assess the situation. If somebody comes into your local place and starts shooting the place up you are going to use a whole different skill set.

I think people are pretty instinctive. you know when to calm down and when it's time to pick up something heavy.

[souphound]

Jun 13, 2022 19:25:05 GMT Sneelock said:

 If somebody comes into your local place and starts shooting the place up you are going to use a whole different skill set.

And that is exactly why there should be an armed guard at every single door to anywhere.  That'll stop the nonsense.

[Reactionary Rage]

It's not something I've come across very often in the adult world. I've seen a couple of street fights, saw somebody's head being jumped on when I was a teenager but that's it (that was quite shocking though at the time). There's been a few times I've thought I would end up in a fight but nothing came of it.

The old man was a violent man. He used to box in the Navy and I've heard stories about him so I know he was the kind of man who has that ability to just hit people, whereas most people talk and bluster without any real intention to hit. Therefore he is pretty blase about violence and he actually likes it! But there was also a code there. A code among men whereby there were rules and if you crossed those rules you deserved a slap. It was an honour thing and I respect that. The way he talks about the 50s and the 60s I get the impression there was more violence around and more men willing to slap guys in pubs who stepped out of line but then he was a Navy lad who travelled the world so he would encounter more of that stuff anyway.

[Markus]

On his most recent show, Maher said "American kid sees an estimated 200,000 acts of violence before age 18". I can't imagine that's much different to kids over here, taking in films, TV, video games maybe in their private lives. He said it's not THEE problem but you have to admit it has an affect, and i agree with him. It must increase your tolerance to violence. It's like when the UFC started doing woman's fights. All my instincts was to look away when a lass got knock out by another lass, now, i just take it as it is and it doesn't affect me as much.

[rayge]

'effect'

[Markus]

I'll take that, I have trouble on when to use affect/effect.

[osgood]

Jun 14, 2022 12:19:06 GMT Markus said:

On his most recent show, Maher said "American kid sees an estimated 200,000 acts of violence before age 18". I can't imagine that's much different to kids over here, taking in films, TV, video games maybe in their private lives. He said it's not THEE problem but you have to admit it has an affect, and i agree with him. It must increase your tolerance to violence. It's like when the UFC started doing woman's fights. All my instincts was to look away when a lass got knock out by another lass, now, i just take it as it is and it doesn't affect me as much.



I'll take that, I have trouble on when to use affect/effect.

You got it wrong the first time and right the second (in case it helps)

Funny that this is a mistake that I see a lot in native English speakers, but we Spaniards never do, because we have similar words with the same meaning as in English, and of course the very different pronunciation of 'a' and 'e' in Spanish prevents any confusion.



(sorry for the digression, please go on)