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Post by Markus on Aug 8, 2022 19:00:45 GMT
I know, but I discovered it and found it funny But in the two years time there has been plenty of evidence of cops being called on black people and reacting heavy handedly. We even had some articles regarding Eire and people of color dealing with racism. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it 100% does. It's just looks and feels like something that was thrown together and not thought out. Like Coan said too there has to be a law for this, seriously? Then there's the name, fuck me. Eire is far from perfect in terms of racism. We're still kinda finding our feet a little since the massive influx of folk coming here. That's not to defend actual racists that live here. Them cunts can fuck right off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 19:01:32 GMT
maybe it's not so far-fetched. maybe eventually we need to deal with WHY people make race specific police calls. Isn't the race sometimes relevant in helping identify the perpetrator.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Aug 8, 2022 19:02:35 GMT
Yes. Unfortunately many are and thus the need. But surely there are already existing laws. It's already illegal to make up a false claim against someone for instance. Unfortunately, the subtext is a lot of times the cops are racist and don't really need much to see them in the wrong and seriously/deadly escalate the situation. Cell phones changed that, by at least catching what actually happen rather than police and witness statements. But Arizona has sought to outlaw recording police on cell phones.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Aug 8, 2022 19:05:27 GMT
But in the two years time there has been plenty of evidence of cops being called on black people and reacting heavy handedly. We even had some articles regarding Eire and people of color dealing with racism. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it 100% does. It's just looks and feels like something that was thrown together and not thought out. Like Coan said too there has to be a law for this, seriously? Then there's the name, fuck me. Eire is far from perfect in terms of racism. We're still kinda finding our feet a little since the massive influx of folk coming here. That's not to defend actual racists that live here. Them cunts can fuck right off. I agree. The proposal has its heart in the right place, but it would require third party interpretation real time. That is what cell phones have done and cops self cameras are suppose to be doing, but all that is after the fact.
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 8, 2022 19:07:35 GMT
maybe it's not so far-fetched. maybe eventually we need to deal with WHY people make race specific police calls. Isn't the race sometimes relevant in helping identify the perpetrator. when they ask you for a description, certainly. Karen said he was black on the presumption that he would be mistreated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 19:12:24 GMT
Isn't the race sometimes relevant in helping identify the perpetrator. when they ask you for a description, certainly. Karen said he was black on the presumption that he would be mistreated. Fair enough (...I mean your point, not what Karen did! )
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Post by davey on Aug 8, 2022 19:12:32 GMT
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it 100% does. It's just looks and feels like something that was thrown together and not thought out. Like Coan said too there has to be a law for this, seriously? Then there's the name, fuck me. Eire is far from perfect in terms of racism. We're still kinda finding our feet a little since the massive influx of folk coming here. That's not to defend actual racists that live here. Them cunts can fuck right off. I agree. The proposal has its heart in the right place, but it would require third party interpretation real time. That is what cell phones have done and cops self cameras are suppose to be doing, but all that is after the fact. Apparently it was passed and DID become law. But the difference between what passed and that initial description is that these calls were not made illegal. Instead, victims have been given the right to sue: abcnews.go.com/amp/US/san-francisco-passes-caren-act-criminalize-phony-911/story?id=73867081
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Post by davey on Aug 8, 2022 19:19:28 GMT
Two things…
1. The difference between the initial reporting and the final product provides an eloquent response to Markus’s reaction that it seemed to be carelessly thrown together. Clearly they refined it.
2. It is an unqualified good thing that some kind of deterrent exists for this behavior. Whether it actually stops these calls or not, it makes it clear where the city and police department stand on the matter.
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Post by ~ / % ? * on Aug 8, 2022 19:36:13 GMT
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Post by Sneelock on Aug 8, 2022 19:40:03 GMT
why, that's hilarious!
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Post by souphound on Aug 8, 2022 20:59:43 GMT
Yes. Unfortunately many are and thus the need. But surely there are already existing laws. It's already illegal to make up a false claim against someone for instance. Fair enough but I think it goes a little further than that. The act of calling 911 is not in itself the same as making an accusation (and let's be clear, I'm not a lawyer and I am not intimate with specific laws where I live, let alone anywhere else. I'm just saying what I am guessing to be the situation). I would hope that if such a law was in place, it would at least require that it be shown that the caller was acting mischievously or something like that before they were found in the wrong. Am I out to lunch?
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Post by toomanyhatz on Aug 8, 2022 21:29:23 GMT
Possibly, but not because of that. And it seems pretty clear to me that there ARE people out there that want to use the 911 system to enforce their own prejudice. Seems to me such stories are a LOT more common than people being unfairly accused of racism because they identified somebody's race in connection with a report.
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