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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 10, 2023 11:48:45 GMT
Stealing this thread idea from BCB - I always thought it was a good one... I've been learning about agitprop ('agitation propaganda', basically) . I'd heard the term used before, but by the NME in the 80s, referring to bands like Go4 (I think), which is a bit daft, but par for the course with the NME back then. Anyway, as usual I got hooked in by the imagery. Well, you've got to start somewhere, haven't you? "Want it? Join" "1. You want to overcome cold? 2. You want to overcome hunger? 3. You want to eat? 4. You want to drink? Hasten to join shock brigades of exemplary labor!"
Anyway - Vladimir Mayakovsky is your man. He was a poet, an artist, an actor. He started his career as a Futurist, before the Russian Revolution. He designed the posters the Soviets used to propagate their ideas after 1917. Start there - there's a lot of ideas, a lot of art. He wrote 'Talking With The Taxman About Poetry', which of course Billy Bragg named an album after, but don't let that put you off. The agitprop 'machinery' involved distributing literature across the country to convince the population that communism was a good idea. Big trains with printing presses, radios to communicate back to base and inform whether particular regions needed more convincing, or different methods, or whatever. I find this fascinating. And digging a bit deeper leads to other things that are just as interesting (as is so often the case). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agitprop
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Post by tory on Jan 10, 2023 12:24:15 GMT
A new genre called "Progressive Gypsy"
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Post by DarknessFish on Jan 10, 2023 15:07:20 GMT
Well, not today, but in the last 24 hours. I learned the basic steps to the quickstep, and to salsa. I started proper ballroom dance lessons last night, all in the name of charidee. Eleven weeks of training left.
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Post by blue on Jan 11, 2023 1:26:05 GMT
There are types of turtle ants with a door shaped head which are used to protect the entrances to nests.
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Post by DayoRemix on Jan 11, 2023 3:43:38 GMT
Never look straight in the sun's rays Letting all the sunshine in Can't remember where, oh, I've been Edit: No Husker Du fans, I guess..
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Post by osgood on Jan 11, 2023 9:53:39 GMT
There is something called Jews harp in Good Vibrations, a song that might well be the one that I've heard the most (my bro bought the single at the time and we didn't have so many, so...)
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Jan 11, 2023 11:34:05 GMT
One million seconds is equivalent to 11.5 days One billion seconds is equivalent to 31.7 years
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 11, 2023 16:48:11 GMT
A new genre called "Progressive Gypsy" well GO ON then
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Post by neige on Jan 12, 2023 10:41:04 GMT
There is something called Jews harp in Good Vibrations, a song that might well be the one that I've heard the most (my bro bought the single at the time and we didn't have so many, so...) Unfortunately named but very common idiophone. The name derives from jaw harp
Maultrommel (mouth drum) in German, guimbarde in French and scacciapensieri (thought-chaser) in Italian.
In GV, it's obviously waaaayyyy down in the mix.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 12, 2023 10:53:49 GMT
...and scacciapensieri (thought-chaser) in Italian. love that! I thought stuzzicadente (sp?) was my favourite Italian word, but that has to beat it
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Post by fonz on Jan 12, 2023 12:32:15 GMT
There is something called Jews harp in Good Vibrations, a song that might well be the one that I've heard the most (my bro bought the single at the time and we didn't have so many, so...) I used to have one. Sold as a ‘ Jews’ Harp’, which I always assumed was an anti- semitic term as it was a really cheap, and cheaply-made instrument.
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Post by osgood on Jan 12, 2023 12:56:39 GMT
There is something called Jews harp in Good Vibrations, a song that might well be the one that I've heard the most (my bro bought the single at the time and we didn't have so many, so...) Unfortunately named but very common idiophone. The name derives from jaw harp
Maultrommel (mouth drum) in German, guimbarde in French and scacciapensieri (thought-chaser) in Italian.
In GV, it's obviously waaaayyyy down in the mix. Oh, that thing. (I should have googled it before posting here, but it would have been less fun). We call it arpa de boca.Now, for the first time, I can hear it in GV, exactly where Gooat Boy said.
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Post by A.R. Parsons on Jan 16, 2023 2:19:59 GMT
I learned about the history of the Meriden Workers' Co-operative.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Jan 17, 2023 9:36:16 GMT
The agitprop 'machinery' involved distributing literature across the country to convince the population that communism was a good idea. Big trains with printing presses, radios to communicate back to base and inform whether particular regions needed more convincing, or different methods, or whatever. I find this fascinating. And digging a bit deeper leads to other things that are just as interesting (as is so often the case). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgitpropFilms as well. It's where Vertov's films were shown for example.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Jan 24, 2023 7:08:04 GMT
I learned how much of an almighty fuck-up the 'rescue mission' of the Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics was.
(appropriately German word order there!)
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