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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 21, 2023 14:24:20 GMT
Thanks!
I think it's quite common to be aware of a term without knowing really what it means. I probably first heard 'pre-Raphaelite' as a teen, but never really bothered finding out what it refers to. The same goes for 'Impressionist' and many others. You have a vague awareness but you don't go deep because you don't need to. Unless it's homework 🙂
Anyway - saw some more Lowry there too. His paintings are kind of childlike in some ways, and I think he himself made no claims as to his own skills or intellect - but the painting of Piccadilly Gardens (first time for me) is very special.
Manchester's growing on me a bit.
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Post by rayge on Mar 21, 2023 14:33:41 GMT
Saw some more Lowry there too. His paintings are kind of childlike in some ways, and I think he himself made no claims as to his own skills or intellect - but the painting of Piccadilly Gardens (first time for me) is very special. Manchester's growing on me a bit. I'd never seen that Lowry of PG. It's startlingly different from what I think of as 'typical' Lowry, very nice. Manchester is the only large English city (next on the list, probably Hull) that I never visited: probably never will, now
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 21, 2023 17:01:02 GMT
Thanks! I think it's quite common to be aware of a term without knowing really what it means. I probably first heard 'pre-Raphaelite' as a teen, but never really bothered finding out what it refers to. The same goes for 'Impressionist' and many others. You have a vague awareness but you don't go deep because you don't need to. Unless it's homework 🙂 Anyway - saw some more Lowry there too. His paintings are kind of childlike in some ways, and I think he himself made no claims as to his own skills or intellect - but the painting of Piccadilly Gardens (first time for me) is very special. Manchester's growing on me a bit. I go to Manchester art gallery fairly often. The Pre-Raffa section is superb, I love Arthur Hughes' Ophelia: and the sheer heavy-handedness of "The Shadow of Death": Lowry's cool, the paintings may be simplistic, but they capture a time, place and mood like nothing else. They have a lot of paintings by his mentor, Valette, which I think still capture the feel of Manchester, all that murk and urban industrialism:
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 21, 2023 17:33:03 GMT
Interesting you single out those three, because I saw them all and remember seeing them all, and I was only in there for 40 minutes before I got the train. The first one especially impressed me.
The room with the Valette and Lowry was completely empty so I could wander around comfortably. I didn't really see any similarities between the two in terms of style, but one caption pointed out just one single figure depicted in a later Lowry work, and said something like 'although he had long since left behind Valette's guiding hand, the influence lives on in the way Lowry had the man at the forefront...' etc. etc.
I read a few negative reviews on TripAdvisor objecting to the 'politicisation' of the place - how they'd interspersed great works of art with modern tableaus with heavy-handed messages, or a portrait from 1820 now with a text asking the viewer to think about whether showing this black actor (rather than a black slave) was ahead of its time or something else.
I love walking around art galleries though. Great that this was free. As was the People's History Museum - saw a lot about Peterloo there and some beautiful old TU banners.
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Post by fonz on Mar 22, 2023 7:20:53 GMT
I might be in Madchester in a couple of weeks (Good Friday). My sister says there is a perpetual’Carnival Atmosphere’. It’ll be a toss-up between this gallery and the football museum…
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Mar 22, 2023 7:44:21 GMT
Saw some more Lowry there too. His paintings are kind of childlike in some ways, and I think he himself made no claims as to his own skills or intellect - but the painting of Piccadilly Gardens (first time for me) is very special. Manchester's growing on me a bit. I'd never seen that Lowry of PG. It's startlingly different from what I think of as 'typical' Lowry, very nice. Manchester is the only large English city (next on the list, probably Hull) that I never visited: probably never will, now I liked it before the regeneration when you'd get these great huge spaces and vast Victorian warehouses. Now it just has the spic and span look of everywhere else.
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 22, 2023 7:56:38 GMT
Nah, Manchester still has a rundown, grimy air in places, once you get away from Picadilly. It's never lost that. You can head down a side street and feel you're about to be stabbed at any time.
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Post by DarknessFish on Mar 22, 2023 7:59:18 GMT
I might be in Madchester in a couple of weeks (Good Friday). My sister says there is a perpetual’Carnival Atmosphere’. It’ll be a toss-up between this gallery and the football museum… Football museum is OK, but it's stretching a few exhibits a bit thin. If you're taking kids, the queues for the interactive bits can be huge, even on a quiet day the queue to take penalties is 45 mins.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Mar 22, 2023 8:03:30 GMT
I liked it before the regeneration when you'd get these great huge spaces and vast Victorian warehouses. Now it just has the spic and span look of everywhere else. The Northern Quarter retains some of that, but I suppose it's true that it's lost a lot of what made it unique. Cities want to hold on to whatever makes them different though, I would say. You just need to look a bit harder. I really enjoyed walking around Fred Aldous - huge old art supply shop that's been standing for 150 years or so. And the Koffee Pot people are ridiculously friendly and I should have gone for the pancakes.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 8, 2023 16:47:16 GMT
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Apr 12, 2023 18:33:52 GMT
Italians are SO much more civilised than the Spanish
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 12, 2023 19:59:58 GMT
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Post by blue on Apr 13, 2023 13:00:02 GMT
Saw some more Lowry there too. His paintings are kind of childlike in some ways, and I think he himself made no claims as to his own skills or intellect - but the painting of Piccadilly Gardens (first time for me) is very special. Manchester's growing on me a bit. I'd never seen that Lowry of PG. It's startlingly different from what I think of as 'typical' Lowry, very nice. Manchester is the only large English city (next on the list, probably Hull) that I never visited: probably never will, now He spent a lot of time in Sunderland during his older years and painted a few full seascapes, the city's museum has a small series of paintings with columns in the middle of the sea which he called 'self portraits'. Simple and odd. I've read someone who remembers him staying at the Seaburn hotel - always took the same room and sat at the same table by himself. I'm out in Manchester later in the month, as it happens, and will probably stay around the Northern Quarter. I've been round the museums before but never the bars.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Apr 30, 2023 23:24:40 GMT
Today I learned, after a lifetime of cooking, that the hole in the middle of a pasta spoon can be used to measure one serving of spaghetti (or other long pasta types).
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on May 1, 2023 22:58:44 GMT
'No Woman No Cry'
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