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Post by loveless on Jan 9, 2020 17:38:56 GMT
Peak period eclecticism aside, I'd argue that Bowie "made HIS Trans" quite a few times over during the last three plus decades of his life.
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Post by countmachuki on Jan 9, 2020 17:41:56 GMT
You're doing our job for us! Well, I could go start a thread saying that James Booker released better albums than anyone else after 1970, and then state that the criteria is that the artist must be a gay, black, one-eyed junkie pianist, you'd probably have a hard time coming up with any counter examples! If the criteria for this exercise is, as was suggested above, "released albums that could be classified as being from different genres over a period of many decades," that doesn't exactly give us a lot of room to work with! AH, you're forgetting Charlie "Winky" McGee. Savannah's finest gay, black, one-eyed junkie pianist. Honestly, Mike! For shame.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 9, 2020 17:56:52 GMT
Who are all these post 1970 artists whose output beats Bowie? I'm genuinely curious. If we're limiting it to the 1970s (and really, nobody here has been arguing strongly for Bowie after 1980, apart from Black Star), I think Stevie Wonder beats him. I think Marvin Gaye is right there with Bowie, in terms of great musical output, vision, and influence (and I think What's Going On is a better album, front to back, than any of Bowie's albums). I think Willie Nelson released as many undeniably great albums in the 1970s as Bowie, and post 1980, in terms of overall quality, he absolutely demolishes Bowie. I could go on.I think you've said enough
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 9, 2020 17:57:25 GMT
Willie Nelson? If it wasn't obvious already, the UK/US divide is VERY evident here. Just an observation I think Mike has been smoking some of Willie's personal stash
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Post by loveless on Jan 9, 2020 17:58:03 GMT
To that end, there's something about this unshakable feeling that, no matter how much love I have for Bowie's best work, it will never be sufficient by some recurring communal standards.
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 9, 2020 17:59:56 GMT
You will be placed in a giant Bowie wicker effigy and burned at Preludin dawn
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Post by loveless on Jan 9, 2020 18:02:42 GMT
You will be placed in a giant Bowie wicker effigy and burned at Preludin dawn BOWIE (From the heavens): "I told him to buy Earthling..."
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Jan 9, 2020 18:05:11 GMT
Too soon man TOO SOON
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Post by loveless on Jan 9, 2020 18:07:24 GMT
Oh, sure - definitely the Preludin equivalent of dead baby jokes.
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Post by nolamike on Jan 9, 2020 18:15:58 GMT
Willie Nelson? If it wasn't obvious already, the UK/US divide is VERY evident here. Just an observation I think Mike has been smoking some of Willie's personal stash Go check it out - Red-Headed Stranger, Shotgun Willie, Phases and Stages, Yesterday's Wine, Stardust (hey, look, genre-hopping!), The Troublemaker, To Lefty From Willie, Sings Kristofferson... every single one an absolutely great album, with not a bad track on a single one of them. And that's not even getting into a number of his almost-perfect albums from the '70s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 18:36:33 GMT
Donny Hathaway? You're talking nonsense. Most people have barely heard of him and would struggle to name a song beyond "The Ghetto". I'm actually a fan but I used to start threads on him all the time on BCB and I'd get like two replies. And even with him you're talking 2-3 great albums. Donna Summer made two revolutionary singles with Georgia Moroder, and a classic track in "State of Independence" and that's it. You're comparing pygmies with giants. In terms of popular music today - what is on the charts - then yes, Hathaway does have more direct influence than Bowie. Pop charts today are dominated by hip-hop, R&B, and EDM. All of which sounds nothing like Donny Hathaway!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 18:40:14 GMT
Donny Hathaway? You're talking nonsense. Most people have barely heard of him and would struggle to name a song beyond "The Ghetto". I'm actually a fan but I used to start threads on him all the time on BCB and I'd get like two replies. And even with him you're talking 2-3 great albums. Donna Summer made two revolutionary singles with Georgia Morodor I meant Giorgio of course. Sorry..I had Georgia on my mind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 18:46:04 GMT
I think Mike has been smoking some of Willie's personal stash Go check it out - Red-Headed Stranger, Shotgun Willie, Phases and Stages, Yesterday's Wine, Stardust (hey, look, genre-hopping!), The Troublemaker, To Lefty From Willie, Sings Kristofferson... every single one an absolutely great album, with not a bad track on a single one of them. And that's not even getting into a number of his almost-perfect albums from the '70s. The only thing Willie Nelson does better than Bowie is herd cattle!
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Post by nolamike on Jan 9, 2020 18:52:18 GMT
Go check it out - Red-Headed Stranger, Shotgun Willie, Phases and Stages, Yesterday's Wine, Stardust (hey, look, genre-hopping!), The Troublemaker, To Lefty From Willie, Sings Kristofferson... every single one an absolutely great album, with not a bad track on a single one of them. And that's not even getting into a number of his almost-perfect albums from the '70s. The only thing Willie Nelson does better than Bowie is herd cattle! He's a better songwriter, for starters.
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Post by nolamike on Jan 9, 2020 18:54:29 GMT
In terms of popular music today - what is on the charts - then yes, Hathaway does have more direct influence than Bowie. Pop charts today are dominated by hip-hop, R&B, and EDM. All of which sounds nothing like Donny Hathaway! There isn't a contemporary R&B singer whose vocal delivery hasn't been heavily influenced by Hathaway!
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