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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 23, 2023 14:32:26 GMT
Culturally speaking.
Compare now with 2010, you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference. It's the same gap as between 1956 and 1969 or 1971 and 1984 to give some perspective.
Does this bother you? What do we do about it?
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Post by rayge on Feb 23, 2023 15:26:49 GMT
It doesn't bother me because I believe it's caused by a perceptual difference of culture and the passing of time based on aging, and the lack of annual landmarks. A 25 to 30-year-old would probably see the difference between 2010 and 2023.
What do we do about it? Accept, or squabble about it on forums, or find new interests.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 23, 2023 15:40:46 GMT
Full-scale thermonuclear war. That'd be new. |
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Post by tory on Feb 23, 2023 15:49:26 GMT
Culturally speaking. Compare now with 2010, you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference. It's the same gap as between 1956 and 1969 or 1971 and 1984 to give some perspective. Does this bother you? What do we do about it? Can you actually prove this? |
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Post by fonz on Feb 23, 2023 16:20:30 GMT
Social media is way way way more pervasive and ubiquitous since the iPhone/ tablet revolution
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Post by Reactionary Rage on Feb 23, 2023 16:44:46 GMT
I'd settle for good over new. Some would point to "new" things in music of course, new sounds, new genres (oooo afropop!), new combinations but the things I hear rarely interest me. Even if there are "new" things I prize quality over novelty. Of course some would claim it's not the quality of the music that changes it's the listener but that's bollocks.
The lack of freshness of cinema and its decline bothers me far more than music. Music will carry on and the kids will listen to it, not with the intensity and life changing quality that previous generations experienced due to its lack of cultural power and because there are so many other things to do but with cinema it really feels like an art form is withering on the vine and dying before our eyes. Which sounds melodramatic but there you go. I don't think the kids are into cinema these days and some of the younger ones I've met don't appear to even understand it as an art form at all. It might as well be bleeding opera to them.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 23, 2023 17:40:33 GMT
One thing I'll say is definitely, almost DEMONSTRABLY true, and that's the lack of any obvious change in the way things look - particularly in the way we dress - over 20 years or so.
German TV do this 'News from 20 years ago' thing, and I watched the headlines from February 2003 last night, and it could have been from 2023. The clothes the presenter was wearing, the typefaces used, the overall look of the show. Whereas there is a very clear difference between 1983 and 2003, and probably an even bigger difference between 1963 and 1983.
So what's all THAT about then?
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Post by tory on Feb 23, 2023 17:45:07 GMT
Global manufacturing of textiles as opposed to local ones I suspect.
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Post by fearlessfreap on Feb 23, 2023 17:49:51 GMT
One thing I'll say is definitely, almost DEMONSTRABLY true, and that's the lack of any obvious change in the way things look - particularly in the way we dress - over 20 years or so. German TV do this 'News from 20 years ago' thing, and I watched the headlines from February 2003 last night, and it could have been from 2023. The clothes the presenter was wearing, the typefaces used, the overall look of the show. Whereas there is a very clear difference between 1983 and 2003, and probably an even bigger difference between 1963 and 1983. So what's all THAT about then? There’s an online game called chronophoto where you guess the year a photo was taken. I can usually get it close if it’s between 1900 and 1990 or so, but there has to be a car or electronic equipment in the picture for me to get the right year from 1995 to today. |
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 23, 2023 18:54:49 GMT
It doesn't bother me because I believe it's caused by a perceptual difference of culture and the passing of time based on aging, and the lack of annual landmarks. A 25 to 30-year-old would probably see the difference between 2010 and 2023. Not convinced by that. I'd need to see a number of examples to be persuaded. |
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 23, 2023 18:57:21 GMT
Global manufacturing of textiles as opposed to local ones I suspect. More the decline of strong visual styles I'd say. John gave the example of clothes, but he could equally have said buildings, sofas or cars. |
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 23, 2023 18:58:39 GMT
Social media is way way way more pervasive and ubiquitous since the iPhone/ tablet revolution Not new exactly though is it. |
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 23, 2023 18:58:42 GMT
Global manufacturing of textiles as opposed to local ones I suspect. More the decline of strong visual styles I'd say. John gave the example of clothes, but he could equally have said buildings, sofas or cars. Yeah, there's been some kind of stagnation or something. Homogeneity, lack of diversity. I don't know. |
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 23, 2023 18:59:58 GMT
Culturally speaking. Compare now with 2010, you'd be hard pressed to notice any difference. It's the same gap as between 1956 and 1969 or 1971 and 1984 to give some perspective. Does this bother you? What do we do about it? Can you actually prove this? It's true. If it isn't you should be able to easily refute it. |
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Post by rayge on Feb 23, 2023 19:07:33 GMT
It doesn't bother me because I believe it's caused by a perceptual difference of culture and the passing of time based on aging, and the lack of annual landmarks. A 25 to 30-year-old would probably see the difference between 2010 and 2023. Not convinced by that. I'd need to see a number of examples to be persuaded. Not interested in persuading you, G, just telling you how I see it.  Everybody's right, and everybody's wrong, about everything. Everybody includes me, of course.
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