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Post by quaco on Feb 20, 2024 23:39:29 GMT
That's funny, because I'm pretty sure I heard the French pronunciation long before I heard the other, so the other seems a little wrong to me, although I don't mind it. As a native francophone, may I ask for the "D" to be removed from "oh-MAH DGE" in order to achieve proper frenchitude, please. Merci. Sounds the same as fromage. Yes, sorry, that D shouldn't have been there.
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Post by quaco on Feb 20, 2024 23:42:20 GMT
I occasionally pronounce the t but I don't know why. I don't think I ever did growing up. If people are saying it more on TV and the like, it may be an affectation they think makes them sound sharper. It's like no one can just pronounce homage "AHM-midge" any more. They have to pretend-say "oh-MAHDGE". Lately, I've been trying to de-pomposify my words when I can. I don't know why exactly, but just being annoyed at the word that comes to my head, so if I can change it as it's coming out, it makes me feel better. Like saying "smart" rather than "intelligent" or "think" rather than "conceive"—that sort of thing. Well, not that you'll necessarily have many opportunities to refer to cheese as fromage, but...surely you wouldn't say "FRAH-MIJ". I have a friend who seems to be doing the opposite of de-pomposifying, both in vocabulary and pronunciation. He's someone who I'm frequently in conversation with, so...it irks me a little (maybe as a sort of signifier of our differences and some of his less endearing quirks) - no matter which way we're going, he'll use a word like rapprochement (with immaculate French pronunciation - as if he were sitting for a high school French exam), or pronounce Motorik as if he were auditioning for Neu! (I mean, this is 100% a word I expected to die only seeing in print, so...I'm really taking him at his word here), psychedelia with "deal" in the middle, and sitar he says thusly: SEE-tar (see, this is what I mean - he may very well be right, but...it comes off like an act of perverse stubbornness and self seriousness to implicitly correct every other living person you or I will ever meet). I don't know where he stands on Moog, but...again...I can probably guess that he will not bend to standard usage. In the end, it all strikes me as hopelessly affected, but...I think this paragraph makes it rather clear that this is more my problem than his. The only real policy I have is to speak a common language (for practical purposes). I know how Robert Moog's family name is pronounced, but...unless I am addressing him face to face, I'm quite happy to use the same pronunciation as (premier Moog-ist) Linda McCartney. There is a great wide world between folksy and affected, and...I think most of us live there. Moog Peart Dave Davies It's amazing how fraught with danger our little music world can be! I say "deal" in the middle of "psychedelia"at least sometimes, maybe 50/50 with "del". I will never utter the word "Motorik".
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Post by loveless on Feb 21, 2024 0:10:52 GMT
I will never utter the word "Motorik". And I thank you for that. Even the very usage of the word felt "designed to impress" or "designed to demonstrate knowledge" in a way that made me squirm. Again - I realize this is all about me and my ridiculous hang-ups, but...ultimately, I feel as if there's a way to sound utterly "outside of a thing" by being so demonstrably specific. Generally, if I sound like I'm using a brand new word for the first time, that feels like an issue worth flagging. There are certain situations where "academic" is absolutely the wrong kind of energy to introduce. Probably part of a larger issue.
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Post by Charlie O. on Feb 21, 2024 0:11:54 GMT
I say "deal" in the middle of "psychedelia"at least sometimes, maybe 50/50 with "del". I think I always say "deal" there anymore, even though I always think of Neil from The Young Ones when I do.
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Post by Charlie O. on Feb 26, 2024 14:27:57 GMT
Last night, I heard someone interviewed on a radio program say "oftenly" - twice in the same response. She didn't pronounce the "t", for the record. (She also said "formidable" when she meant "formative", but that's a different thread.)
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