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Post by adamcoan on Feb 13, 2024 10:46:30 GMT
It's the owner.
Is it ?
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Post by fearlessfreap on Feb 13, 2024 11:39:06 GMT
I'd say so. Our dog is part pit bull. He loves people (unlike his owner) -- I trust him around children as well. We got him as a rescue when my kids were young. Neighborhood kids run up and pet him all the time while we're walking. He doesn't like other dogs, though. I think he's very protective of me. I have to pull him away when I'm walking past other people walking dogs. Of course this goes both ways. He ignores some dogs and they'll go lunging for him.
There are a lot of people who live near me who keep their dogs chained up outside all day. I can't blame the dogs for being surly for that, it's the fucking owners. If you don't want a dog, don't get one.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 13, 2024 11:49:15 GMT
I think it's both. The problem is aggressive dogs attract thuggish, irresponsible owners. But some breeds are a real problem. Look at the stats for dog attacks leading to fatality or life changing injuries, on both people and other dogs, in the uk in the last year and you will find a huge number have been committed by this American Bully breed. It's not safe to have them on our streets.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 13, 2024 12:14:16 GMT
Yeah, it's obvious some dogs are innately more aggressive. Why would it be otherwise? A certain kind of owner might encourage that kind of behaviour, but it has to be there in the first place.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 13, 2024 14:13:05 GMT
Almost all dogs can be trained away from aggressive behaviour. If the owner isn't willing to put in the effort, then they shouldn't have a dog with those tendencies. Of course, some people see it as a sort of 'status symbol' to have an intimidating dog, just like some people need guns or pickup trucks to reinforce their masculinity. It mostly boils down to small men needing to feel some sort of power.
So yeah, it's the owners.
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Post by loveless on Feb 13, 2024 14:48:14 GMT
My side quest here is the neurotic dog (with behavior issues).
In every single case I've seen, it's downright hereditary (re: the owners).
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 13, 2024 15:14:01 GMT
Wild kids. Parents, or 'born that way'?
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Post by adamcoan on Feb 13, 2024 15:32:59 GMT
Wild kids. Parents, or 'born that way'? Woah, Mr Chairman, what is this? Side loading and thread jumping, tsk. Shame on you.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 13, 2024 15:33:26 GMT
Relevant.
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Post by Mr. FOLLARD on Feb 13, 2024 15:34:05 GMT
I see Matt Wilson has quit the SS....
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Post by fearlessfreap on Feb 13, 2024 15:48:57 GMT
The Schutztaffel? Thank god for that.
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Post by Stacy Heydon on Feb 13, 2024 15:54:34 GMT
Almost all dogs can be trained away from aggressive behaviour. If the owner isn't willing to put in the effort, then they shouldn't have a dog with those tendencies. Of course, some people see it as a sort of 'status symbol' to have an intimidating dog, just like some people need guns or pickup trucks to reinforce their masculinity. It mostly boils down to small men needing to feel some sort of power. So yeah, it's the owners. Lions can be tamed if you bring them up from tiny cubs, but no one in the right mind would think them suitable as family pets because there's always the possibility the wild animal inside can come out and they're too powerful to be controlled. The American Bully breed I referred to earlier has been specifically bred to be a fighting dog and to be as aggressive and strong as possible - no other purpose, but a pure fighting machine. To think such a dog would be fine if only the owners were more careful and responsible just seems very naïve and smacks of applying a default position. So yeah, sometimes it's the dogs.
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Post by adamcoan on Feb 13, 2024 16:05:25 GMT
I see Matt Wilson has quit the SS.... Again ?
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Post by adamcoan on Feb 13, 2024 16:06:41 GMT
Why do you want an aggressive,powerful dog. Why do you want a dog.
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Post by Half Machine Lipschitz on Feb 13, 2024 16:10:37 GMT
The American Bully breed I referred to earlier has been specifically bred to be a fighting dog and to be as aggressive and strong as possible - no other purpose, but a pure fighting machine. This is absolutely untrue.
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